Multiple Teslas set on fire in Germany
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The time for petitions and lobbying have passed. Our regulatory agencies have been captured and our politicians bought.
In the future it'll only get more and more dangerous to associate with Teslas at all. Anyone who values their personal safety should unload it now.
I will be reporting anyone I catch destroying otherwise innocent people's property to the authorities. I will not be associated with you fucking animals.
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Imagine you buy a car and it gets burned down because the owner of the car company turns out to be a Nazi.
I would like Tesla to go bankrupt too but cheering on regular peoples property being destroyed is wrong.
Totally agree and the fucker already got the money. They are just fucking other people's lives. However, we can agree that if you think you're buying a car that someone is going to burn down, then that's a good deterrent to buy them. So I can also see the positive side of things. And all these cars are probably insured against vandalism anyway
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I will be reporting anyone I catch destroying otherwise innocent people's property to the authorities. I will not be associated with you fucking animals.
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All cars are required to have insurance in most European countries, Germany included. Not sure if collateral damage by vandalism is covered by default, but most of the time you are covered against any damage that you yourself didn't cause, so I assume it is covered.
I can assure you if you have a second hand 10 year old car and it burns down, you’ll get 3000€ from insurance, and good luck finding a replacement for that money.
“They have insurance” doesn’t solve all problems when you’re struggling and need a car for work.
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Only if I buy a Tesla.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Yes, you are the villain here.
Holy shit. Did you just invoke Martin Niemöller in defense of a Nazi?
Unbelievable.
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Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens,
Only if I buy a Tesla.
Insurance prices will rise across the board
Nope. This vandalism risk is only related to Tesla.
also for other brands.
Why? They are not being vandalised, have no change in risk so have no premium adjustment.
That is just how insurance works.
You obviously have no idea how insurance works.
You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla.
Agreed.
You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.
Vandalism accomplishes the goal faster and more aggressively
You are condoning terrorism. Do better.
I'm condoning nothing. I will even explicitly say Don't Vandalise Cars. Happy?
What I am doing is explaining how Musk is affected if people continue to vandalise Teslas.
No that’s the thing, it won’t only be when you buy a Tesla, it will be when you do whatever the mob terrorists deem wrong.
Insurance premiums will rise across the board. Ask two or three insurance companies if you don’t want to take my word for it. You have no idea how insurance businesses operate.
I’m glad you do not condone vandalism.
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I can assure you if you have a second hand 10 year old car and it burns down, you’ll get 3000€ from insurance, and good luck finding a replacement for that money.
“They have insurance” doesn’t solve all problems when you’re struggling and need a car for work.
So you can buy another 10 years old car with that.
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Totally agree and the fucker already got the money. They are just fucking other people's lives. However, we can agree that if you think you're buying a car that someone is going to burn down, then that's a good deterrent to buy them. So I can also see the positive side of things. And all these cars are probably insured against vandalism anyway
Sometimes sacrifices have to be made to get the message across.
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some of them maybe? surely not all?
You don't need insurance FOR your car. You MUST have a "Haftpflichtversicherung" - but that only covers damage done by you and your car. If you only have that, you'll get exactly 0 Euro.
Most people here have partial coverage, so if glass breaks, you get into an accident with a wild animal or you car gets stolen - and you'll get some money back.
Full coverage would also include stupid mistakes you made. As long as they are not on purpose or done by speeding, drinking and driving and stuff like that.
So yeah, most people with newer cars would have full coverage. Expensive tho. So older cars usually only have partial or none coverage - only "Haftpflichtversicherung" is a must. Without you are not allowed to have a car in traffic.
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All cars are required to have insurance in most European countries, Germany included. Not sure if collateral damage by vandalism is covered by default, but most of the time you are covered against any damage that you yourself didn't cause, so I assume it is covered.
Not so in Austria. Only Haftpflichtversicherung is required which only covers the car owner's liability.
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A waste of resources.
They all could've been sold and the money used to help poor people.
Now there's nothing. Yay.
Kids in Africa could eat those cars!
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Wonder what a burned Tesla smells like
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Wonder what a burned Tesla smells like
Smells like victory.
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No that’s the thing, it won’t only be when you buy a Tesla, it will be when you do whatever the mob terrorists deem wrong.
Insurance premiums will rise across the board. Ask two or three insurance companies if you don’t want to take my word for it. You have no idea how insurance businesses operate.
I’m glad you do not condone vandalism.
No that’s the thing, it won’t only be when you buy a Tesla, it will be when you do whatever the mob terrorists deem wrong.
That's true for vigilantism in general, but Tesla vandalism is not really targeting the owners.
Nor is it a Mob because the attacks are decentralized, not organised.
Various people are deciding to perform criminal acts independently of each other.
Think of it more like extreme consumer activism than vandalism.
Insurance premiums will rise across the board.
No. Only on Teslas.
Ask two or three insurance companies if you don’t want to take my word for it.
OK. Just did so. They agree with me.
You have no idea how insurance businesses operate.
I do. The insurance business prices risks. Tesla vandalism only affects Teslas so only their premiums are affected. Any insurance company that tries to increase BMW insurance premiums because of Tesla risks will sell less insurance.
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Kids in Africa could eat those cars!
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Is this a Ben Shapiro reference?
It's a hbomberguy reference about how much of an idiot Ben Shapiro is.
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If you own a Telsa, sell it.
Realistically, this makes no difference. Tesla has already got the money from the seller. The only person losing is the seller who now sells the car at lower price than they bought it for and have to put in more money to buy a replacement vehicle.
Flood the market with used Swasticars that nobody wants to be associated with and nobody will buy the new ones. Money is the only thing they understand.
The only ones who will buy Teslas now are conservatives and they will buy new 'just to show support for Musk'.
Realistically, this makes no difference.
Denying Tesla the sale of a second car to a second person makes no difference because they already got the first sale of the first car? Pretty sure Tesla would prefer to sell two cars instead of one, and get the profit directly. There is an assumption here that the original buyer (who sold the car) went and bought another Tesla, which is in conflict with the other poster saying people should sell their Tesla (as it move away from the brand).
The only ones who will buy Teslas now are conservatives and they will buy new ‘just to show support for Musk’.
So, let them. It's still not getting Tesla what they ultimately want -- money -- long as the original owner doesn't buy a Tesla themselves.
Subscriptions might be an argument that Tesla could still profit, but then the question is where/how do they profit more from ownership?
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Wonder what a burned Tesla smells like
Bloody sinuses
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I hope this was not personal property