Seems like the perfect day to ask: Muricans, what's your dream country to expatriate to? Non-Muricans, what's the thought on accepting US refugees?
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Costa Rica
Our country attracts a lot of American tourists, they mainly go to the beaches and national parks but I have seen them on my city sometimes
I'm fine with it, I highly suggest you learn Spanish since we are a Spanish-speaking country, and you can only see English on the tourist areas
Also if you want to become a citizen you need to do some sort of exam that for most foreign people is hard. Just so y'all know
Also even with a gringo accent, you'll fit right in /jk
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I know some folks have strong feelings that people should stay and fight
As someone who thinks that. Sounds like you already fought your fight. And if you already tried it's fair enough to move on.
Thanks. I care a lot about liberty and freedom. I think they come with duty and responsibility. Even though we are anonymous strangers on the internet, I want you to know that I respect everyone who stays and fights either because they cant leave or they choose not to. I hope you all win. I can still vote in federal elections, and I will continue to do so.
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Californian - i want us, oregon, and washington to join canada.
I feel like if CA were to leave the US it would join Mexico, not Canada
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I feel like if CA were to leave the US it would join Mexico, not Canada
fuck no lol joining mexico is submitting yourself to the rule of cartels. Theyre super corrupt.
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American here. Can confirm; do not have $30,000. I just managed to scrounge up $5500 for the minimum possible downpayment on a house in northern Maine; the bluest, closest to Canada place, where people like to mind their own business and not fuck with anyone else for no reason. The Canadian escape route is real, though.
I do hear good things about Portugal. I was thinking Spain, but they seem to be having their own issues right now. This timeline is definitely off the rails.
There were some very fucked up things happening in our very red state, both in general and to us in particular. We had considered something similar, like moving to Maine or Vermont. These things happened just at the right time in 2024 that it was obvious that trump was going to win, but we still had time to plan to get out before he did.
We figured if we were going to go through the hassle of moving far enough away that any friends or family were going to fly to come vist us, that just moving to a blue state wasn't good enough. We figured that when trump was reelected that even blue states wouldn't be safe enough.
And believe me, I am well aware of how fortunate I am, because I was not always so fortunate. I realize that not everyone can do it. There were a couple of women married to each other that lived near us that were scared as hell, but they couldn't afford to move to any of the places they were researching.
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fuck no lol joining mexico is submitting yourself to the rule of cartels. Theyre super corrupt.
Mexico == cartels????!?!!!?!??
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I would take american refugees.
Of course they would have to answers questions from the police regarding their complicity in the Gaza genocide, especially around their vote in a specific elections where both candidates supported genocide.
But don't worry after a few month in jail you'll be able to walk freely
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Canadian here. I'll welcome anyone who voted against Trump.
Those who voted for Trump or didn't vote at all can die in a ditch.
Canada is notoriously genocide friendly. Good that all those genocide voter will get a safe harbour
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And that stops the non-morons from using the guns to end the morons rule how?
I really don't want people to be in situations where they need guns. And liking to use a gun is a sign of a moron - why should nice people be like them?
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As a US citizen you have right to work in most of those countries.
Nope. Absolutely none of those appear to allow working with just a US passport.
Without that right, it would be a different story
... Because I think it is.
But, to be fair, I only did a little searching. If you have a reference - like a page from the gov of Denmark saying "Yanks are cool: come in and get to work" - I'd love to be proved wrong. My nephew needs to see the world, and working is how it's done.
Yeah, I also checked and I was wrong. Not needing an entry visa is nice, but in order to work legally, one needs to find a job before (or there are talent pathways in some countries, but they would work for most other countries).
I am just one of the "non-EU" (and non-US of that matters) people, whom Denmark doesn't like to have, but I'm still living there waiting for my perm residence.
It's always easier to think: "aah, other people have it better!"
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Sure, but finding a job and housing in most of the places I listed is quite challenging, often even for citizens of those countries, but especially immigrants.
Checked and found that US citizens don't have inherent right to work in EU - it's only easier to travel, not to settle down.
And speaking of renting - it really depends. If we're talking about Copenhagen, it is expensive, the market is broken (thanks AirBnb), and it's really hard and expensive to move in. I burned through my savings and owed some money to my employer before I could invite the rest of my family into a freshly-rented apartment. But if we're talking about "a bed under a roof", it's super easy to find a room on FB Marketplace, and live with a couple of other internationals.
So if it's just about "getting out of US" (crazy, I never thought it would be a thing, I'm sorry for them), then finding work is a must, but in a big city you usually can find something. It's only hard to find something nice and permanent -
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Here in Canada we're trying to catch America's brain drain. We especially need doctors quite desperately.
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wrote last edited by [email protected]Chinese. I... don't think China accepts immigration, so I don't think it matters what most Chinese people think of Americans. Not that I think China would be an ideal expat destination for most Americans anyway... China also have most of the problems US have. Maybe for some highly accomplished scientists/business executives who can be offered a job (since China is spending a lot on R&D), but that's probably it
As someone who lived in the US for a long time and actively considered this?
- Northern European countries are nice for anyone who doesn't mind living like a vampire; there is basically no sunlight in winter, but they are probably the best in terms of providing what an "average person" wants and needs
- There are countries here and there which have low cost-of-living and high quality-of-life, assuming that I only want to be an "expat" who wants to live temporarily and am not trying to find work there (remote work, savings, or something else). My parents insist that Thailand fits this category; I believe several South American countries fit the bill as well
- Realistically, if I actually want to immigrate, it will probably end up being one of the random EU countries, whichever I can get in via ancestry or find a job in...
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Ex patriot is a whitewashing term for immigrant. Because immigrants has a negative connotation so whites had to make up another term so they could differentiate themselves.
âExpatriateâ
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Checked and found that US citizens don't have inherent right to work in EU - it's only easier to travel, not to settle down.
And speaking of renting - it really depends. If we're talking about Copenhagen, it is expensive, the market is broken (thanks AirBnb), and it's really hard and expensive to move in. I burned through my savings and owed some money to my employer before I could invite the rest of my family into a freshly-rented apartment. But if we're talking about "a bed under a roof", it's super easy to find a room on FB Marketplace, and live with a couple of other internationals.
So if it's just about "getting out of US" (crazy, I never thought it would be a thing, I'm sorry for them), then finding work is a must, but in a big city you usually can find something. It's only hard to find something nice and permanentyes, permanent employment that allows you to stay in the country is a must. As a trans person in the US, it's been difficult to know whether to give up my career and whole life for basically constant instability and risk living as an immigrant in another country, especially when trans rights are getting stripped everywhere else too. Getting trans healthcare in Europe is not always such a breeze even for citizens.
Still, I appreciate your optimism and willingness to see the possibilities- that's important to know.
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Morocco or Jordan. Been trying to learn Arabic for a few years and would love to be forced to take it more seriously. Mostly can just read the letters. They are relatively safe countries that are in areas of the world I have studied extensively. Also means closer travel to many of the old cities I want to visit.
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Germany here, only the smart once please. Dont need the idiots. Already got enought here
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Americans would do anything to not call a general strike.
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âExpatriateâ
Buddy I already have.
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yes, permanent employment that allows you to stay in the country is a must. As a trans person in the US, it's been difficult to know whether to give up my career and whole life for basically constant instability and risk living as an immigrant in another country, especially when trans rights are getting stripped everywhere else too. Getting trans healthcare in Europe is not always such a breeze even for citizens.
Still, I appreciate your optimism and willingness to see the possibilities- that's important to know.
Denmark is fine for trans - nobody cares who you are, in a way that you have the same rights.
