How to talk some sense into my daughter regarding a scam university?
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My daughter (high school senior) really wants to go to this university next year. She’s a great student, she could easily attend a proper college if she wanted to, but she’s into the whole witchy hippie alternative thing. This college is a legit scam, even sold the main Washington campus due to financial issues this year. Each time I try to have a conversation about the cons with her the line is “daddy will take care of me”. My husband (daddy) always takes her side (will pay her full tuition and everything). She’s the biggest daddy’s girl I’ve ever known, but at this point this is just straight up enabling bad decisions.
wrote last edited by [email protected]how did she get this idea into her head in the first place?
one of the worst life ruining decisions a student can make is to rack up student debt, with no means to pay it off after graduation.
look at graduation statistics if they publish it. what is the employment rate and median salary of graduates?
Is the total cost comparable to the median starting salary?
if taking sense into ur daughter isn't possible, then maybe reason with ur husband based on finances?
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My daughter (high school senior) really wants to go to this university next year. She’s a great student, she could easily attend a proper college if she wanted to, but she’s into the whole witchy hippie alternative thing. This college is a legit scam, even sold the main Washington campus due to financial issues this year. Each time I try to have a conversation about the cons with her the line is “daddy will take care of me”. My husband (daddy) always takes her side (will pay her full tuition and everything). She’s the biggest daddy’s girl I’ve ever known, but at this point this is just straight up enabling bad decisions.
Lmao, let her go, it'll be hilarious. You lot sound like real fun.
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The craziest part is that when I talk to him about it, he says he’d agree with me if our daughter was a son; but since she’s a girl what she studies/does professionally isn’t important as she should just do what she loves since “she can just find a good husband to take care of her”.
Sounds like your husband might be a prick.
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The craziest part is that when I talk to him about it, he says he’d agree with me if our daughter was a son; but since she’s a girl what she studies/does professionally isn’t important as she should just do what she loves since “she can just find a good husband to take care of her”.
It sounds like you should have started intervening in this situation YEARS ago. Now it's coming to a head and you don't have any influence at all, because you didn't claim your role in this family when you should have. Now it's too late.
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My daughter (high school senior) really wants to go to this university next year. She’s a great student, she could easily attend a proper college if she wanted to, but she’s into the whole witchy hippie alternative thing. This college is a legit scam, even sold the main Washington campus due to financial issues this year. Each time I try to have a conversation about the cons with her the line is “daddy will take care of me”. My husband (daddy) always takes her side (will pay her full tuition and everything). She’s the biggest daddy’s girl I’ve ever known, but at this point this is just straight up enabling bad decisions.
100% agree this is a conversion with your husband. From the comments, what even is the point of her going to any college if theres a chance shell just drop out and stick you with debt and nothing to show for it?
What I will say that diverges from most others is that while this school might be a scam, this aspect of the "wellness industry" has existed for millennia. Interest in holistic whatever isn't exactly a career death sentence. Your daughter might very well make good money selling herbs and crystals to wealthy white ladies.
IMO, this is a conversion with your husband and then daughter asking her to sell you all on why she's going to college and for what. With the alternative being charging her rent or something else intended to have her leave the nest. She likely sees this school as having no accountability because as long as the checks clear, she'll be enrolled.
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My daughter (high school senior) really wants to go to this university next year. She’s a great student, she could easily attend a proper college if she wanted to, but she’s into the whole witchy hippie alternative thing. This college is a legit scam, even sold the main Washington campus due to financial issues this year. Each time I try to have a conversation about the cons with her the line is “daddy will take care of me”. My husband (daddy) always takes her side (will pay her full tuition and everything). She’s the biggest daddy’s girl I’ve ever known, but at this point this is just straight up enabling bad decisions.
Check how they got their accreditation. It's possible to just buy a struggling accredited school these days and just keep their accreditation and completely change the curriculum.
Also ask them for employment and income statistics of their graduates. If they don't have them that's a red flag you can bring up.
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The craziest part is that when I talk to him about it, he says he’d agree with me if our daughter was a son; but since she’s a girl what she studies/does professionally isn’t important as she should just do what she loves since “she can just find a good husband to take care of her”.
Wow, you married that kind of person?
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100% agree this is a conversion with your husband. From the comments, what even is the point of her going to any college if theres a chance shell just drop out and stick you with debt and nothing to show for it?
What I will say that diverges from most others is that while this school might be a scam, this aspect of the "wellness industry" has existed for millennia. Interest in holistic whatever isn't exactly a career death sentence. Your daughter might very well make good money selling herbs and crystals to wealthy white ladies.
IMO, this is a conversion with your husband and then daughter asking her to sell you all on why she's going to college and for what. With the alternative being charging her rent or something else intended to have her leave the nest. She likely sees this school as having no accountability because as long as the checks clear, she'll be enrolled.
There won’t be any debt. As I mentioned, husband is paying in full for college.
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I almost fell for something similar. Right before enrolling I decided to go on a deeper dive and I found ample evidence of it being a diploma mill without any value whatsoever. Saved me a lot of grief.
Dude two of the colleges I toured when I was a high schooler ended up shutting down and losing their accreditation. Only reason I didn't attend either of them was my parents told me they were too expensive and I was just a high schooler with zero concept of money who had yet to work at all (and honestly I had a bunch of other contributing problems but that's well outside of the scope of this discussion)
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There won’t be any debt. As I mentioned, husband is paying in full for college.
OK, but so he's basically paying for adult day care if she quits before graduating?
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Lmao, let her go, it'll be hilarious. You lot sound like real fun.
Always validating to see users live up to the tag I gave them
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The craziest part is that when I talk to him about it, he says he’d agree with me if our daughter was a son; but since she’s a girl what she studies/does professionally isn’t important as she should just do what she loves since “she can just find a good husband to take care of her”.
"she can just find a good husband to take care of her”.
He is still wrong then. He is about a thousand years too late with this view.
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My daughter (high school senior) really wants to go to this university next year. She’s a great student, she could easily attend a proper college if she wanted to, but she’s into the whole witchy hippie alternative thing. This college is a legit scam, even sold the main Washington campus due to financial issues this year. Each time I try to have a conversation about the cons with her the line is “daddy will take care of me”. My husband (daddy) always takes her side (will pay her full tuition and everything). She’s the biggest daddy’s girl I’ve ever known, but at this point this is just straight up enabling bad decisions.
Just let her attend. Pseudoscientific quackery, along with an elevated ego, lack of self-doubt, and the backup of a rich parent, are a certain way to make a whole fuckload of money.
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100% agree this is a conversion with your husband. From the comments, what even is the point of her going to any college if theres a chance shell just drop out and stick you with debt and nothing to show for it?
What I will say that diverges from most others is that while this school might be a scam, this aspect of the "wellness industry" has existed for millennia. Interest in holistic whatever isn't exactly a career death sentence. Your daughter might very well make good money selling herbs and crystals to wealthy white ladies.
IMO, this is a conversion with your husband and then daughter asking her to sell you all on why she's going to college and for what. With the alternative being charging her rent or something else intended to have her leave the nest. She likely sees this school as having no accountability because as long as the checks clear, she'll be enrolled.
Also you don’t need a degree to sell herbs and crystals.
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My daughter (high school senior) really wants to go to this university next year. She’s a great student, she could easily attend a proper college if she wanted to, but she’s into the whole witchy hippie alternative thing. This college is a legit scam, even sold the main Washington campus due to financial issues this year. Each time I try to have a conversation about the cons with her the line is “daddy will take care of me”. My husband (daddy) always takes her side (will pay her full tuition and everything). She’s the biggest daddy’s girl I’ve ever known, but at this point this is just straight up enabling bad decisions.
What is the highest debt to income ratio?
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Just let her attend. Pseudoscientific quackery, along with an elevated ego, lack of self-doubt, and the backup of a rich parent, are a certain way to make a whole fuckload of money.
Dammit. I hate it, but this is the smartest stupid answer.
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What is the highest debt to income ratio?
Debt incurred by students divided by their post-graduation salary. For conventional medical school, it's around 75%. Law school 35-40%. 688% is crazy.
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Also you don’t need a degree to sell herbs and crystals.
Yes, absolutely. I would worry more about the school trapping her in and endless moving goalposts to graduate situation. Unless they have a quantifiable and confirmed network or some benefit to graduates, it seems like a cash grab.
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My daughter (high school senior) really wants to go to this university next year. She’s a great student, she could easily attend a proper college if she wanted to, but she’s into the whole witchy hippie alternative thing. This college is a legit scam, even sold the main Washington campus due to financial issues this year. Each time I try to have a conversation about the cons with her the line is “daddy will take care of me”. My husband (daddy) always takes her side (will pay her full tuition and everything). She’s the biggest daddy’s girl I’ve ever known, but at this point this is just straight up enabling bad decisions.
She gonna have a hard time finding that trad-husband with 80k in bullshit student loans from a private college. And no real job prospects. You could suggest a nutritionists path at another university? My mother basically became the default bread winner with a nutritionists degree.
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OK, but so he's basically paying for adult day care if she quits before graduating?
Essentially. And he’s cool with that apparently.
