Gustavo Petro responds to Trump: “Overthrow me…the Americas and humanity will respond”

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

I was pretty sure I gave you a straight answer multiple times, but apparently everything I say is wrong lately, so I guess this is just one of all of those times.

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

That was unnecessarily cruel towards yourself.

Have I been engaging you in bad faith? Have I resorted to insult or personal attack? If so, that was uncalled for and I sincerely apologize.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

You won't accept my answer so obviously my answer is wrong as usual.

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

Because I don't see this exchange as win/lose situation I can only state, again, that I find your statement unnecessarily cruel towards yourself.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

And yet it's true.

[zalgotext@sh.itjust.works]

You'd save a lot of pointless back and forth in threads like this if you just say what you mean, instead of making people drag it out of you bit by bit.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

I thought I did say what I meant, but apparently whatever I say, as usual, is stupid and wrong and worthless.

So maybe you and everyone else should just tell me to fuck off and never talk to any of you again. It's probably for the best.

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

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[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

I'm too stupid to know what that's supposed to mean, but I'm sure whatever it means I deserve it.

You're free to tell me to fuck off and die too, it's also what I deserve.

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

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[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

Yes. Seriously.

You're talking to someone who's lesbian daughter is going to end up in a conversion therapy camp because he's too much of a fuckup to take advantage of emigrating to the UK because he was stupid enough to think he could actually save her life.

I mean I don't know why you keep talking to me, but...

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

Why will that happen? And what has changed so you can't take advantage of moving to the UK?

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

Why do you care? Anyway, I am in the UK already. I'm just fucking it all up like I fuck everything up. And when we run out of money and have to go back to the U.S. and she gets put in a camp, it will be my fault.

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

Because empathy costs nothing, yet it is so hard to see it be spent.

Because I take no joy of seeing another human being suffer.

Because I want to show, even if only for a brief and fleeting moment, concern for you and your troubles.

Because I want to.

Why is going back the only option? Can't you work there?

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

You need to decide whether you're going to troll me with gifs or if you are going to act like you care. Because it can't be both.

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

Using a gif for a visual cue of my mental state isn't trolling. It's just me lacking words to perfectly express myself.

I'm not going to arm wrestle you to decide if I'm putting up a fake caring facade or if I'm being honest. That is solely up to you.

And to borrow your words: you are free to stop talking to me and be rid of me for ever.

[breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca]

Do you post MBFC links on articles from outlets they classify as “unbiased” too, or just the “biased” ones?

I post links if I'm unfamiliar with a source and look them up, regardless of their conclusions. Sometimes I'll do research on a news source if they don't have an MBFC entry and share that as well. I assume there are others who are like, "cool story but... who the fuck is this?" I hope it spares them the extra steps.

If some people don't like that, I don't care. I count MBFC downvotes as upvotes. It helps people I'm overjoyed to help and pisses off people that I'm pretty okay with pissing off. I'm not letting a bunch of greasy misinfo ghouls call the shots.

A couple minutes of research shows that (although their contributors are all over the world) their legal entity People’s Dispatch Ltd. is registered in New York.

First, registering and operating are two different things. Human beings are not just bound by the laws of the country their corporation is registered in.

But... so what? If the information we have shows something that's problematic then new information becomes available that addresses our concerns... that's fine. That's how shit's supposed to work. MBFC is an information source, not the information source.

As others have pointed out many times before, the entirely flawed premise behind MBFC is that centrism correlates with credibility and/or factualness...

etc etc etc

Look, I've met my quota on debating weird MBFC conspiracy theorists. The reality is there are a lot of people who don't know what they're talking about posting links to webpages they haven't read. I'm not interested in someone's poorly thought out take on how they say the Guardian is quadruple Mein Kampf, or whatever. If you have links to peer-reviewed research that support those conclusions, I'd be happy to see them. You don't, though, because every bit of academic work on MBFC says those people are dead wrong.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

I didn't say you were free to stop talking me and be rid of me forever. I said when my daughter gets taken away from me, the universe will be rid of me forever.

Should have been rid of me forever before she was even born honestly.

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

But why will your daughter be taken from you?

Again, isn't it possible for you to stay in the UK indefinetely? Just settle there? Or perhaps on some other european country?

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

It's possible for me to stay here indefinitely. She is not a citizen and she would not get citizenship for 10 years. And she can only stay on a family visa if I make more than £29,000 a year, which I won't because no one wants to hire me.