Germany is on its way to facism

[saleh@feddit.org]

To add: today there is the debate and iirc. decision in the parliament, whether to call the constitutional court to investigate whether or not to forbid the fascist party AfD.

There has been back and forth debates about whether or not to do this, despite strong indications that the AfD is an enemy to the constitution and the rights granted therein.

Only the federal parliament, the state assembly or the federal government can task the constitutional court to start an investigation. The federal government has so far not done anything to this regard. Also more right wing politicians among the less right wing parties are undermining the effort in the parliament, wanting to block or delay the tasking. The procedure at the court would likely take 3-5 years, which means that a failure now to bring up the motion would likely grant the AfD at least one additional federal election after the upcoming election in three weeks.

If the motion fails, it will be a complete failure of the "democratic" parties, who are basically rolling out the carpet for the fascists at this point.

[genosseflosse@feddit.org]

The last time things were this bad were in fact in Germany in the 1930s & 40s. To my knowledge it hasn’t been as bad as it is now since that point.

Right wing social media wants you to believe that is is as bad; or even worse. Facts don't matter, feelings do.

[trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works]

I vaguely remember this from history class in school. Something something Weimar Republic...

::: spoiler I have a hunch how this will end
The bad guys win. Then we'll have Word War at some point. Not sure about being liberated afterwards, though.
:::

[geometrinen_gepardi@sopuli.xyz]

Exactly, people on Lemmy call just about anything they don't agree with fascist. If everything is fascist, nothing is.

[sharemysims@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Just a point of note - the liberation by outside forces last time wasn't done for the benefit of those being exterminated (hell, every single one of the allies had a significant part in either rejecting refugees, or actively doing oppressing and outright exterminating of their own before the war even started), but for the benefit of those countries leaders, and finances.

So there might be liberation, but it'll only exist to enable us to return to "normalcy" which is the capitalist status quo that keeps leading to world wars (because they're that profitable).

[atro_city@fedia.io]

If Germans once again vote like sheeple, I'm not sure how the rest of Europe will react this time. Maybe it'll be the same mistake of "nah, they surely won't be that crazy" until tanks roll into Warsaw and Paris. Who knows.

But the German population has the chance to stop this at the next elections. They just have to decide that they want to. If not, well, they make their own beds.

[dumnezero@piefed.social]

Specifically, the conservative/fascist sphere has figured out, via brute testing, how to refine their "narative" stories and marketing of those stories, alongside with how to use social media for it (personalized messaging and astroturfing). They know how to hack the masses or at least the relevant electorate.

[subarctictundra@lemmy.ml]

I wonder why they chose to do it right before the elections

[barsoap@lemm.ee]

It's Einfache Sprache, nowhere close to the formal register.

[dumnezero@piefed.social]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/adolf-hitler-secret-billionaire

[cows_are_underrated@feddit.org]

Sadly a lot of the voters dont care. It is literally the same as in the US, where over 50% voted for a facist.

[faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

I'm French, and honestly, I don't think tanks would roll into Paris like you said. France would 100% go fascist as well...

[melchior@feddit.org]

Most of the rest of Europe has similar issues. Poland has had PiS for a long time, France sees Macron working with LePen, Italy is right wing under Meloni, Netherlands have the right wing in party in the government right now and there are plenty more. Germany is pretty much the last large country standing and this looks bad.

[obviouslynotbanana@lemmy.world]

I don't know if France would go fascist, since I'm not french, but one other caveat against tanks rolling into Paris is that France has nukes.

[inlandempire@jlai.lu]

the french gov has been flirting with fascist rhetoric for the past 6 years

[obviouslynotbanana@lemmy.world]

I'm not disagreeing with you. I am just not too involved in the intricacies of French governance. But I can say that nukes would be a deterrent against a German invasion!

[inlandempire@jlai.lu]

oh for sure

[redstonevalley@sh.itjust.works]

basically because they assume they could steal votes from the far right by adopting far right topics themselves. It's been proven that this doesn't work though. People then tend to vote for the "original" instead. In fact, adopting far right positions even has a net positive effect for the far right party because a mainstream party now validates their propaganda.

[federalreverse@feddit.org]

I'm all in favor of a "Word War"! Sounds much more fun than a world war.

[_lordmcnuggets_@feddit.org]

My theory is that Merz is looking to poach AfD voters, by "aligning" with their biggest point of immigration to strengthen his chancellor candidacy. But I'm also not THAT informed on the current events.