Germany is on its way to facism

[faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

I'm French, and honestly, I don't think tanks would roll into Paris like you said. France would 100% go fascist as well...

[melchior@feddit.org]

Most of the rest of Europe has similar issues. Poland has had PiS for a long time, France sees Macron working with LePen, Italy is right wing under Meloni, Netherlands have the right wing in party in the government right now and there are plenty more. Germany is pretty much the last large country standing and this looks bad.

[obviouslynotbanana@lemmy.world]

I don't know if France would go fascist, since I'm not french, but one other caveat against tanks rolling into Paris is that France has nukes.

[inlandempire@jlai.lu]

the french gov has been flirting with fascist rhetoric for the past 6 years

[obviouslynotbanana@lemmy.world]

I'm not disagreeing with you. I am just not too involved in the intricacies of French governance. But I can say that nukes would be a deterrent against a German invasion!

[inlandempire@jlai.lu]

oh for sure

[redstonevalley@sh.itjust.works]

basically because they assume they could steal votes from the far right by adopting far right topics themselves. It's been proven that this doesn't work though. People then tend to vote for the "original" instead. In fact, adopting far right positions even has a net positive effect for the far right party because a mainstream party now validates their propaganda.

[federalreverse@feddit.org]

I'm all in favor of a "Word War"! Sounds much more fun than a world war.

[_lordmcnuggets_@feddit.org]

My theory is that Merz is looking to poach AfD voters, by "aligning" with their biggest point of immigration to strengthen his chancellor candidacy. But I'm also not THAT informed on the current events.

[federalreverse@feddit.org]

So the situation is horrible, and would have been completely unnecessary. And there's also no rational power reasoning for this proposal -- this stuff is hurting rather than helping CDU's chances, as it drives people either further right or further left/center.

But I am not happy with the title here:

Germany is on its way to facism

That's not a good way to put it imo, because it presages a future that might not and hopefully won't happen.

What's true is that "conservatives" (CDU/CSU) and "libertarians" (FDP) almost unanimously voted for a populist, useless, unhelpful, racist act that goes both against the German constitution and against EU rules. And they're their repeating historic mistakes here too.

Tl;dr: We are fucked.

No, we are not yet h*cked. Afd was polling at 22% in the beginning of last year, and they lost 8 percentage points in a matter of months, because people took to the streets to form some of the largest protests Germany has seen. If you're German - go out and protest this week! https://demokrateam.org has a list.

[mrs_dewinter@feddit.org]

you will need it eventually for its actual meaning.

Yeah, that time is now and this is what we need it for.

The next time to use it would be retrospectively, when historians try to explain how democracy died in Germany again.

[cows_are_underrated@feddit.org]

I guess, that he really wants to work together with them. He regularly uses their talking points and hints into the direction that people have to talk with them. The latest homicide (an immigrant killed a man and a 2 year old) is great for shifting the discourse to the right.

[trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works]

Unfortunately, that was just a typo, which has now been fixed thanks to your generous intervention.

[trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works]

I would say that makes it even worse. Cooperating with the Nazis just for the sake of an empty symbolic gesture.

[federalreverse@feddit.org]

Too bad.

[morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de]

Considering the SPD (Social Dmocrat Party) and the Greens are currently in power, and 100% of their representatives in the Bundestag voted against the motion, it's doubtful they're going to comply.

Some representatives weren't present during the vote, which is sad considering it went 348 for and 344 against, but what can you do.

[trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works]

Considering how the SPD and Greens have recently allowed the extreme right to set their agenda, I wouldn't trust them the least.

[subarctictundra@lemmy.ml]

* your compatriots

[subarctictundra@lemmy.ml]

That makes sense. Why would you vote for the fake facists when you can vote for the real facists I guess

[duke_nukem_1990@feddit.org]

GANZ DEUTSCHLAND HASST DIE CDU!
GANZ DEUTSCHLAND HASST DIE AFD!