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How much data do you require before you accept something as "fact"?

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    If your hypothesis is "all swans are white", and I show you a black swan, do you reject your hypothesis?

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    Tell you what, you define right and left, I will define the center of it if that will help you wrap your brain around it. Otherwise I have no idea what it is you are trying to accomplish other than starting a zero sum fight so unless you get it together I'm out.

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      Even if it is an illusion created by the brain, does that make it any less existent?

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      If you see a mirage of a spring in the desert can you quench your thirst?

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        when science backs it up.

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        What happens when "science" backs up two opposing ideas with sufficient evidence and logic to make either seem plausible?

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          when science backs it up.

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          Science rules!

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            If you see a mirage of a spring in the desert can you quench your thirst?

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            The fact that there is word for this experience demonstrates that the experience itself objectively exists, which only serves to prove my point.

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              At least 4.

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                What happens when "science" backs up two opposing ideas with sufficient evidence and logic to make either seem plausible?

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                Have you got an example?

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                  What happens when "science" backs up two opposing ideas with sufficient evidence and logic to make either seem plausible?

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                  Then the science isn't done evaluating the opposing ideas. That's the beauty of science, it can be proven wrong and still work.

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                    Like, i found this youtube channel from the video "mom founf the yaoi". And now its latest video is about the rapture? Its just morse code, this description, and 2 links in the comments.

                    As soon as i get home, im yt-dlp this channel to preserve this.

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                    I have no earthly idea what you're talking about (replied in the wrong place, maybe?), but that is some prime internet weirdness.

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                      I have no earthly idea what you're talking about (replied in the wrong place, maybe?), but that is some prime internet weirdness.

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                      Not sure if people on the internet are doing a bit for the funnies, or actually serious with what the believe.

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                        Have you got an example?

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                        Off the top of my head string theory is a good example of numerous competing hypothesis that seem plausible given the data.

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                          Then the science isn't done evaluating the opposing ideas. That's the beauty of science, it can be proven wrong and still work.

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                          How can Science be proven wrong and still work? That is not at all how Science works.

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                            The fact that there is word for this experience demonstrates that the experience itself objectively exists, which only serves to prove my point.

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                            Answer the question.

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                              This is exactly how science works. It self corrects as new information becomes available.

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                                Not sure if people on the internet are doing a bit for the funnies, or actually serious with what the believe.

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                                The bit where she's distracted by her skinny arm right after saying she can't distract herself makes me pretty sure it's parody. It's very well done, though.

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                                  Answer the question.

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                                  I have absolutely no idea why you are being so weird about this since obviously if the spring does not exist then it cannot be drunk from. However, what you are working bizarrely hard to go out of your way to miss is that, regardless of whether the spring itself exists in objective reality, the experience of seeing it has objective existence.

                                  Phrased in a different way: if you see something that looks like a spring in the desert, then that might not mean that you will be able to drink from it, but you can be certain that, in that moment, you are seeing something that looks like a spring in the desert.

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                                    I have absolutely no idea why you are being so weird about this since obviously if the spring does not exist then it cannot be drunk from. However, what you are working bizarrely hard to go out of your way to miss is that, regardless of whether the spring itself exists in objective reality, the experience of seeing it has objective existence.

                                    Phrased in a different way: if you see something that looks like a spring in the desert, then that might not mean that you will be able to drink from it, but you can be certain that, in that moment, you are seeing something that looks like a spring in the desert.

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                                    Do Unicorns exist?

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                                      Depends on the source and the weight of the claim. My fattest friend tells me the new Italian place slaps? Fact. The smartest person I know tells me there's a newly discovered planet? Worth looking into if it comes from them, but I'm skeptical.

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                                        Do Unicorns exist?

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                                        Does asking inane questions make you feel clever?

                                        I think you need to work on your argument.

                                        Edit: Actually, this is a teachable moment to illustrate my point: I highly suspect that you experiencing a feeling of being clever after deploying these non sequiturs is something that objectively exists, but that does not mean that you are objectively being clever.

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                                          Does asking inane questions make you feel clever?

                                          I think you need to work on your argument.

                                          Edit: Actually, this is a teachable moment to illustrate my point: I highly suspect that you experiencing a feeling of being clever after deploying these non sequiturs is something that objectively exists, but that does not mean that you are objectively being clever.

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                                          Phrased in a different way: if you see something that looks like a spring unicorn in the desert, then that might not mean that you will be able to drink from pet it, but you can be certain that, in that moment, you are seeing something that looks like a spring unicorn in the desert.

                                          I know you think I am trying to be clever, but I don't need to be clever to see through such simple nonsense which you are unwilling to defend.

                                          You can answer the question or you can stop wasting my time. Tanks. 🙂

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