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This is a joke right? (Xbox ROG Ally)

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  • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

    To be fair, the Legion S uses the Z2 Go chip, which is basically same benchmarks as a Z1 Extreme. If this uses the Z2, that's gonna be faster.

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    Yeah. But the ROG Ally X just got a price increase so it's $100 more now than what I quoted in the first comment. And that's for the 1TB version with the 2TB version costing $1000. This handheld will have less RAM and an new chip with unknown benchmarks? That's gonna be a hard sell in markets constantly under threat from tariffs. Especially with other handhelds now available at cheaper price points. I'm not sure how much more they can sell this thing for and actually get people who already have a handheld to buy it (or entice people who have held off this long to buy it). Most people looking for a handheld are looking at buying a switch or a steam deck. The things they have going for them is mostly that they're available for purchase in stores and Lenovo's steam os variant is gonna be out in the wild and available by the time this thing hits shelves.

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    • vinesnfluff@pawb.socialV [email protected]

      Again

      COMPARED TO CONSOLES? That's basically paradise.

      Modern, unhacked and unmodded Consoles are:

      1. Completely locked down, not only do they not let you install applications not approved by the manufacturer, in reality you can ONLY buy them from the manufacturer and you pay a hefty tax for that "privilege".

      2. Feeding you ads and upsell attempts whenever you turn them on, as the UI has basically been redesigned to try to sell you more shit first and make getting to your actual games take a few extra steps

      3. Any undesired feature in a console's OS is something you just have to accept and move on. Powerusers killing Windows bloat with third party tools is a time-honoured tradition that goes back to Windows 3.11

      I'm not saying Windows is good.

      I'm saying that for someone coming from a PlayStation or a traditional XBoXSeXxxx (I love making jokes out of this name), this whitelabelled ROG Ally machine would feel like finally being able to breathe. Just for the fact that you can use more than one storefront and install applications from wherever you want.

      Let me put it this way:

      Linux is an anarchist commune. True freedom.

      Windows is an American Style Capitalist Republic. Freedom*********** with a thousand asterisks more. BUT for someone coming from the North Korea that is playing on consoles (or using an iOS mobile device or...), it DOES feel like finally breathing free.

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      That's a really good comparison

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      • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

        To be fair, the Legion S uses the Z2 Go chip, which is basically same benchmarks as a Z1 Extreme. If this uses the Z2, that's gonna be faster.

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        That's not correct. The Legion S is sold with both the Z2 Go chips and Z1 Extreme. The Z2 Go is similar in performance to the Steam Deck and the Z1E is much faster.

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        • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

          Just install Bazzite on it.

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          How is Bazzite supposed to change the form factor...?

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          • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

            Who is this for?

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            #63

            People who want to play games that only work on Windows but don't want to deal with Windows' KBM interface or its' background activity shitfuckery.

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              Oh, Paul Marketing, you crazy fellow.

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                • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB [email protected]

                  No, you cannot change the mapping of the Steam and ... buttons. They are only available to the Steam client. You cannot remap the Steam+other button combinations either.

                  Funnily enough when no game is running the Steam button focuses the Steam window. But that functionality is gone as soon as a game is running. Really frustrating.

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                  That's wierd, works well enough for me? It's called guide button chord layout.

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                  • vinesnfluff@pawb.socialV [email protected]

                    Again

                    COMPARED TO CONSOLES? That's basically paradise.

                    Modern, unhacked and unmodded Consoles are:

                    1. Completely locked down, not only do they not let you install applications not approved by the manufacturer, in reality you can ONLY buy them from the manufacturer and you pay a hefty tax for that "privilege".

                    2. Feeding you ads and upsell attempts whenever you turn them on, as the UI has basically been redesigned to try to sell you more shit first and make getting to your actual games take a few extra steps

                    3. Any undesired feature in a console's OS is something you just have to accept and move on. Powerusers killing Windows bloat with third party tools is a time-honoured tradition that goes back to Windows 3.11

                    I'm not saying Windows is good.

                    I'm saying that for someone coming from a PlayStation or a traditional XBoXSeXxxx (I love making jokes out of this name), this whitelabelled ROG Ally machine would feel like finally being able to breathe. Just for the fact that you can use more than one storefront and install applications from wherever you want.

                    Let me put it this way:

                    Linux is an anarchist commune. True freedom.

                    Windows is an American Style Capitalist Republic. Freedom*********** with a thousand asterisks more. BUT for someone coming from the North Korea that is playing on consoles (or using an iOS mobile device or...), it DOES feel like finally breathing free.

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                    Also, compared to something like the Switch? I don't see MS remotely bricking these devices if you run "homebrew" on them.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      and copilot on a cheap handheld that cannot do anything except record you 24/7 and send it off to MS servers?

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                      Less good

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                        That's wierd, works well enough for me? It's called guide button chord layout.

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                        No changes to that are saved.

                        And it still doesn't let you rebind the Steam or ... buttons themselves.

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                        • xavier666@lemm.eeX [email protected]

                          As per Microsoft, they apparently saved 2 GBs of RAM by preventing productivity apps (bloat) from loading in their Big Picture mode. Now, it's another entirely different thing about how they are handling CPU/VRAM for the games. Let's see how that goes.

                          There was a Youtuber who showed that Windows is bloated, not because of background apps, but because of not using CPU properly (incorrect governor settings). The Youtuber used a script to set it right and windows got a boost in battery life. This kind of makes sense because I've seen none of the "bloat-free" Windows ISOs provide a significant performance boost over the standard OS.

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                          Please source me on this!

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                            Please source me on this!

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                            Source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gzkKL-axCM

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                            • xavier666@lemm.eeX [email protected]

                              Source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gzkKL-axCM

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                              Thank you!

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                              • xavier666@lemm.eeX [email protected]

                                There's apparently a chunk of gamers who can't leave Windows because of GamePass. However, I don't know whether it's a significant portion.

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                                I am more thinking of the Valorant, League, Call of Duty, Fortnite, etc... players. Which are a majority of pc gamers.

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                                • fenrasulfr@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                  I am more thinking of the Valorant, League, Call of Duty, Fortnite, etc... players. Which are a majority of pc gamers.

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                                  There are different clusters of users who don't/can't leave Windows.

                                  • Don't want to learn another OS at all (They are content with the Windows experience)
                                  • Gamepass users. They enjoy the Netflix model of getting free games
                                  • Multiplayer (with anti-cheat) gamers
                                  • Don't want to leave the Adobe suite/
                                  • Uses programs which don't have Linux equivalent

                                  The Linux community has to understand that some of these groups cannot be moved to Linux no matter how much you improve the Linux experience.

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                                    That's a typo, it's supposed to be an R in the middle there, not an F

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                                      Shouldn't it be "Freedom Fromโ€ ?

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                                        penny arcade? Wow, are they even still around? I havent seen anyone talk about or reference them for..god.. 10 years?

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                                          Can't you map Alt-Tab to one of the back buttons? Or does that not work in desktop mode?

                                          EDIT: Or if that doesn't work through steam then is there gamepad software in KDE or the Software Centre that lets the desktop map gamepad buttons?

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                                          I've had mixed results doing this. Not really sure why

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