European Citizens' Initiative to "Stop Destroying Videogames" is missing ridiculously low thresholds.
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Country Statements of support Threshold Percentage Signatures required Austria 10162 13395 75.86% 3233 Belgium 13911 14805 93.96% 894 Bulgaria 4597 11985 38.36% 7388 Croatia 4163 8460 49.21% 4297 Cyprus 565 4230 13.36% 3665 Czechia 7421 14805 50.12% 7384 Denmark 12032 9870 121.90% 0 Estonia 3035 4935 61.50% 1900 Finland 15319 9870 155.21% 0 France 49153 55695 88.25% 6542 Germany 98063 67680 144.89% 0 Greece 5018 14805 33.89% 9787 Hungary 9902 14805 66.88% 4903 Ireland 10353 9165 112.96% 0 Italy 24712 53580 46.12% 28868 Latvia 2679 5640 47.50% 2961 Lithuania 5123 7755 66.06% 2632 Luxembourg 946 4230 22.36% 3284 Malta 533 4230 12.60% 3697 Netherlands 26374 20445 129.00% 0 Poland 53599 36660 146.21% 0 Portugal 8402 14805 56.75% 6403 Romania 12377 23265 53.20% 10888 Slovakia 4987 9870 50.53% 4883 Slovenia 2473 5640 43.85% 3167 Spain 36391 41595 87.49% 5204 Sweden 19849 14805 134.07% 0 Just under 3000-4000 people are required per country in Lithuania, Latvia, Malta and Luxembourg. Come on now... that's a small town and in some places even just a village. Are there really that few gamers in those countries?
How does it work? Does every country need to pass the threshold? Only a certain amount of countries?
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How does it work? Does every country need to pass the threshold? Only a certain amount of countries?
7 countries and 1 million total signatures
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7 countries and 1 million total signatures
Thank you!
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Country Statements of support Threshold Percentage Signatures required Austria 10162 13395 75.86% 3233 Belgium 13911 14805 93.96% 894 Bulgaria 4597 11985 38.36% 7388 Croatia 4163 8460 49.21% 4297 Cyprus 565 4230 13.36% 3665 Czechia 7421 14805 50.12% 7384 Denmark 12032 9870 121.90% 0 Estonia 3035 4935 61.50% 1900 Finland 15319 9870 155.21% 0 France 49153 55695 88.25% 6542 Germany 98063 67680 144.89% 0 Greece 5018 14805 33.89% 9787 Hungary 9902 14805 66.88% 4903 Ireland 10353 9165 112.96% 0 Italy 24712 53580 46.12% 28868 Latvia 2679 5640 47.50% 2961 Lithuania 5123 7755 66.06% 2632 Luxembourg 946 4230 22.36% 3284 Malta 533 4230 12.60% 3697 Netherlands 26374 20445 129.00% 0 Poland 53599 36660 146.21% 0 Portugal 8402 14805 56.75% 6403 Romania 12377 23265 53.20% 10888 Slovakia 4987 9870 50.53% 4883 Slovenia 2473 5640 43.85% 3167 Spain 36391 41595 87.49% 5204 Sweden 19849 14805 134.07% 0 Just under 3000-4000 people are required per country in Lithuania, Latvia, Malta and Luxembourg. Come on now... that's a small town and in some places even just a village. Are there really that few gamers in those countries?
My good Sir do you know what is Malta?
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Country Statements of support Threshold Percentage Signatures required Austria 10162 13395 75.86% 3233 Belgium 13911 14805 93.96% 894 Bulgaria 4597 11985 38.36% 7388 Croatia 4163 8460 49.21% 4297 Cyprus 565 4230 13.36% 3665 Czechia 7421 14805 50.12% 7384 Denmark 12032 9870 121.90% 0 Estonia 3035 4935 61.50% 1900 Finland 15319 9870 155.21% 0 France 49153 55695 88.25% 6542 Germany 98063 67680 144.89% 0 Greece 5018 14805 33.89% 9787 Hungary 9902 14805 66.88% 4903 Ireland 10353 9165 112.96% 0 Italy 24712 53580 46.12% 28868 Latvia 2679 5640 47.50% 2961 Lithuania 5123 7755 66.06% 2632 Luxembourg 946 4230 22.36% 3284 Malta 533 4230 12.60% 3697 Netherlands 26374 20445 129.00% 0 Poland 53599 36660 146.21% 0 Portugal 8402 14805 56.75% 6403 Romania 12377 23265 53.20% 10888 Slovakia 4987 9870 50.53% 4883 Slovenia 2473 5640 43.85% 3167 Spain 36391 41595 87.49% 5204 Sweden 19849 14805 134.07% 0 Just under 3000-4000 people are required per country in Lithuania, Latvia, Malta and Luxembourg. Come on now... that's a small town and in some places even just a village. Are there really that few gamers in those countries?
that's a small town
Luxembourg is kind of a small town tho
Okay, I'll see myself out
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My good Sir do you know what is Malta?
Apparently an island of useless chuds who can't sign a petition.
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Apparently an island of useless chuds who can't sign a petition.
And they ruined my friend's stomach! He could eat a lot before his vacation there.
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Country Statements of support Threshold Percentage Signatures required Austria 10162 13395 75.86% 3233 Belgium 13911 14805 93.96% 894 Bulgaria 4597 11985 38.36% 7388 Croatia 4163 8460 49.21% 4297 Cyprus 565 4230 13.36% 3665 Czechia 7421 14805 50.12% 7384 Denmark 12032 9870 121.90% 0 Estonia 3035 4935 61.50% 1900 Finland 15319 9870 155.21% 0 France 49153 55695 88.25% 6542 Germany 98063 67680 144.89% 0 Greece 5018 14805 33.89% 9787 Hungary 9902 14805 66.88% 4903 Ireland 10353 9165 112.96% 0 Italy 24712 53580 46.12% 28868 Latvia 2679 5640 47.50% 2961 Lithuania 5123 7755 66.06% 2632 Luxembourg 946 4230 22.36% 3284 Malta 533 4230 12.60% 3697 Netherlands 26374 20445 129.00% 0 Poland 53599 36660 146.21% 0 Portugal 8402 14805 56.75% 6403 Romania 12377 23265 53.20% 10888 Slovakia 4987 9870 50.53% 4883 Slovenia 2473 5640 43.85% 3167 Spain 36391 41595 87.49% 5204 Sweden 19849 14805 134.07% 0 Just under 3000-4000 people are required per country in Lithuania, Latvia, Malta and Luxembourg. Come on now... that's a small town and in some places even just a village. Are there really that few gamers in those countries?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Those thresholds are irrelevant because they've been crossed in seven countries already, the important bit is getting another 560k votes from anywhere (in the EU).
The actual hurdle is those 1m votes, any initiative that is not completely lopsided will take the per-country hurdles with ease, as you can tell by this initiative having achieved that while not yet having half of the votes it needs. In fact taking all the thresholds together you wouldn't reach 1m votes but ~0.5m, that is by design.
That's not to say that it'd be a bad idea to do pushes in certain countries, particularly large ones which are less hooked into English media than the usual suspects. By population: France, Italy, Spain, Romania, Belgium is covered by Netherlands+France, Czechia, Portugal, Greece, that's all >=10m member states lagging behind. No point in going after Sweden or the Netherlands people there are already in the loop, and Poland seems to have rallied itself.
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Those thresholds are irrelevant because they've been crossed in seven countries already, the important bit is getting another 560k votes from anywhere (in the EU).
The actual hurdle is those 1m votes, any initiative that is not completely lopsided will take the per-country hurdles with ease, as you can tell by this initiative having achieved that while not yet having half of the votes it needs. In fact taking all the thresholds together you wouldn't reach 1m votes but ~0.5m, that is by design.
That's not to say that it'd be a bad idea to do pushes in certain countries, particularly large ones which are less hooked into English media than the usual suspects. By population: France, Italy, Spain, Romania, Belgium is covered by Netherlands+France, Czechia, Portugal, Greece, that's all >=10m member states lagging behind. No point in going after Sweden or the Netherlands people there are already in the loop, and Poland seems to have rallied itself.
Yeah, nevermind then. Let's do nothing. Might as well just twiddle our thumbs and hope the large countries find another 500k people to sign the initiative. The small countries can be ignored
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Yeah, nevermind then. Let's do nothing. Might as well just twiddle our thumbs and hope the large countries find another 500k people to sign the initiative. The small countries can be ignored
āYou're being helped with info on where you can get the biggest return on your efforts, not being told to do nothing. Your reply is kind of rude if you ask me.
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Sure, but look at what's going on in Lithuania. They can't get 2k people to sign the petition? Wth? Are there no Lithuanian gamers?
Because every EU country has its own media and public discourse spaces, and no European Initiative ever manages to get attention in all member states. They usually focus on those member states where they have contacts and multipliers who can spread it
