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German intelligence warns Putin preparing Nato assault by end of decade

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  • D [email protected]

    where are we? the war thunder forums?

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    Nothing spills military secrets like having to be right on the internet!

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    • N [email protected]

      Wouldn’t Russia have to suddenly produce a lot more young men who are still alive to invade any more countries?

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      Why produce when you can kidnap and pressgang from Ukraine?

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      • E [email protected]

        Kremlin believed that Ukraine was a country that would fall to their knees, bend over and happily join them.

        Now they are taking their time and bomb civilians to force them to do that.

        They are taking their time. This is not an inability. This is deliberate breaking of Ukraine's back.

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        Thank you for reminding me to block lemm.ee with your sad propaganda

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          America is going to be balls deep in greenland and europe will not go to war over THAT.

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          If the EU won't consider themselves to be at war when the part of the EU defensive pact zone that is called Greenland is invaded, they're losing all credibility both internally and externally. Why would the EU defend Finland or the Baltics or Cyprus? Why would the EU organize against foreign powers funding violent rebellions inside EU territory (similar to how Russia funded Transnistria or the US funded the contras in Nicaragua)?

          There is no better red line for France to launch their nukes than the invasion of Greenland. As seen with Russia, any grace given to cult of personality dictators only emboldens them and their worshipers. The only fair response to madman theory is to call the 'insane' administration's bluff and let the people who don't want them and their families to become radioactive piles of ash take the responsibility of defying insane orders.

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            Wouldn’t Russia have to suddenly produce a lot more young men who are still alive to invade any more countries?

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            Men who are still alive

            Oh no... Putin found Dunharrow. Being alive isn't needed.

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            • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

              If we keep it conventional, we could bring about a new dark age. It would have to go nuclear before we start wondering if the deep sea tube worms will survive. We can definitely end humanity unilaterally, we might need Russia's help to boil the oceans.

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              Nuclear war would actually cool the oceans. All nuclear bombs combined contain about the same energy as Hurricane Katrina or a small supervolcano eruption. There would be a small fraction of a degree of temporary increase in global atmospheric temperatures, quickly overwhelmed by the nuclear winter as ash and dust in the upper atmosphere reduce global temperatures by several degrees for several years.

              The only way I see humanity boiling the oceans is by deliberately releasing global-industrial quantities of super-effective greenhouse gases, actively designed to make the Earth as well-insulated as possible.

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                Thank you for reminding me to block lemm.ee with your sad propaganda

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                Interesting. Why block the whole instance? Have you seen a lot of lemm.ee users parroting propaganda? I didn't realize that instance was so bad.

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                • kerntucky@infosec.pubK [email protected]

                  Interesting. Why block the whole instance? Have you seen a lot of lemm.ee users parroting propaganda? I didn't realize that instance was so bad.

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                  Over the months the amount of shit from that instance has convinced me they have zero value or worth, among others

                  I mean, ymmv, for all I know their ideals may resonate with you, but for me I am more than convinced it is a proper choice.

                  On reddit, 2/3rds of the time I spent there in the last few years has been blocking people to curate my engagement

                  Lemmy makes it so easy, I don't have to do it one at a time now.

                  So my procedure is thus: after the 5 rancid comments in a day from users of any given instance, I go and browse the instance. If I keep finding unchallenged rancid replies, then fuck that instance. Lemm.ee has been on my radar for a while now

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                  • N [email protected]

                    Wouldn’t Russia have to suddenly produce a lot more young men who are still alive to invade any more countries?

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                    If only they had an asset in the US who could provide those.

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                    • A [email protected]

                      Thank you for reminding me to block lemm.ee with your sad propaganda

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                      #112

                      How is this propaganda?

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                      • P [email protected]

                        But it only takes one to ruin a weekend.

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                        I don't think at that point my weekend is ruined. It's more like it has ceased to exist. Or matter.

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                          Wouldn’t Russia have to suddenly produce a lot more young men who are still alive to invade any more countries?

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                          No, it'd have to ensure France. Which means if they struck France could nuke Moscow. If. Anyone in Russia gave a shit, they'd slaughter Putin family now.

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                            Maybe. There's no guarantee that every European nation would be on board with sanctioning the US in this scenario.

                            The Netherlands (where I believe they have the only manufacturing base of the machines that make advanced chips) might decide that it's not in their best interest to cut the US off.

                            Anyways I hope this Greenland shenanigans dies on the vine and my silly scenario never comes to pass.

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                            Yes ASML is only in netherlands. Nothing else on earth produces EUV lithography machines of that scale. It's a single monopoly

                            Also netherlands & Hungary definitely won't sanction usa, they love trump

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                            • richardisaguy@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                              They barely could handle a war with small Ukraine, a full scale war with NATO is a no-go; and I'm quite certain Putin won't live that long

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                              Presidents have access to the best medical resources, and Putin seems to be in fine shape. He could live 10 more years. I'm saying that in the hope of a pleasant surprise.

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                              • G [email protected]

                                Based on intel from my MI buddies, most of Putin's nukes are probably nonfunctional. They tried to test one not long ago and it blew up, taking out the entire launch facility.

                                Russia's nukes are more or less a bluff.

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                                So you want to play nuclear poker ? You're a mad-man

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                                • E [email protected]

                                  How is this propaganda?

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                                  Because it is written with an ulterior motive to support abhorrent ideals and values

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                                    Yes ASML is only in netherlands. Nothing else on earth produces EUV lithography machines of that scale. It's a single monopoly

                                    Also netherlands & Hungary definitely won't sanction usa, they love trump

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                                    No, they don't. But nevertheless, they make the machines and money is more worth than not selling it to exactly everyone

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                                      Because it is written with an ulterior motive to support abhorrent ideals and values

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                                      What values are that? That treating russia as a non-threat is wrong?

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                                        Why produce when you can kidnap and pressgang from Ukraine?

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                                        They already do from the occupied areas right? If they get the rest of Ukraine they'll have all the manpower they'll ever need... This is just yet another reason to intervene with troops in Ukraine now. Ukraine falling is an existential threat to European peace, freedom and prosperity. Not to mention Ukraines massive military industry.

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                                        • G [email protected]

                                          I'm not saying to assume they don't all work. I'm saying to diaregard their threats of using thembecause they likely won't.

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                                          Consider this, if only 10% of the warheads work that still leaves over 400 working bombs. Even in the unlikely situation where Russia didn't know which ones where in working condition they could just resort to throwing 10 bombs at a target instead.

                                          We also haven't even defined what not-working means. You could for example classify a hydrogen bomb that doesn't trigger it's fusion stage as non-working. The primary stage of a thermonuclear bomb can still have a yield of a few hundred kilotons of TNT. The bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki where well below that.

                                          For these reasons I consider the "Russian nukes don't work" a nice fantasy at best. The threat is real and only kept in check by western nuclear counterstrike capabilities.

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