Tesla sales drop in Europe for fifth month in a row
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Rivian seems better in literally every way, isn't it?
Price wise also?
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I read Musk fired the Tesla manager for Europe and North America over the low sales, as if those weren't a direct result of Musk's own actions. Like there is only one person responsible for pushing the stupid cybertruck and for associating the brand with fascism.
Don't you know that he's a genius and none of what he says or does can have any bad consequence? If it's not because of him, it must be because of someone else. Oh, BTW: he also fired a manager in Tesla who voiced against him damaging the brand name.
None of these people know anything about anything. Only Elon knows!!
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That would also tank the stock price though.
Sooner or later, the stock price will tank. It's actually quite something that it is still that high, if anyone needed anymore proof that stock investors are not smarter than average Joe.
But Tesla sales are crashing worldwide, not just because of the brand, but because competition has caught up and is now getting ahead. Robo-taxis are going to compete with players that are years ahead on self-driving and safety concerns are going to force Tesla to trim down their price (assuming they manage to no longer need their "safety monitors", in which cas they will just not happen).
Humanoid robots are a tool that needs to find a use justifying its price (and there again, we might see competition from China…).
What's left??
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From the wiki, and I'm simplifying:
VW was handed over to the German government after being offered free-of-charge to Ford in 1948 by the British government (who ran the factory up till then).
In 1946 the produced 1000 cars per month.
In 1949, 2 cars were sold in the US.
In 1952, 12 VWs were sold in Canada.
In 1955 they produced over 1 million Beetles.So 3 years on life support being ran by the British. Dunno how long being run by the German government before becoming GmbH.
And at these times, they could claim "Nazism is dead". The issue with Musk and Tesla is nazis are not going anywhere anytime soon. Maybe they should hire VW's CEO, actually. He managed to get the brand past the diesel-gate.
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a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now
Methinks they may have underestimated Elonazi's dickishness, stupidity, arrogance, and power to piss people off...
OMG that's funny.
Some of them may quietly have the same political view as him, and at worse, most of them don't care about his views. Their failure to understand the rest of the world does mind just show that they're not half as smart as they think, and they're totally disconnected from the normal world.
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You skipped the "mass market" part.
Detroit Electric from 1907 then. They produced 13 000 units in ~30 years. Obviously small numbers compared to today, but mass produced models anyway.
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who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now
Even fucking goldfish remember what he's done. He has irreversibly associated Nazism with Tesla at the same time that cheaper and better electric vehicles are coming out of China. The only way is down and that's not going to change until he is no longer part of Tesla and a lot of time has passed.
Even fucking goldfish remember what he’s done.
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And at these times, they could claim "Nazism is dead". The issue with Musk and Tesla is nazis are not going anywhere anytime soon. Maybe they should hire VW's CEO, actually. He managed to get the brand past the diesel-gate.
So, we should be sending people to prison? Cause that's what happened to people involved in dieselgate. Along with the affected cars being recalled and the owners compensated.
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Even European brands like Polestar belong to Chinese companies by a large share. But yes, German car manufacturers were asleep at the wheel and now they even lobby against the combustion engine ban because they would be left with near zero business.
German car compete too busy fucking over their customers to notice china taking over.
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Europeans still aren't buying Teslas with figures out Wednesday showing sales plunged for a fifth month in a row in May, a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now.
Tesla sales fell 28% last month in 30 European countries even as the overall market for electric vehicles expanded sharply, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. The poor showing comes after Tesla's billionaire CEO had promised a “major rebound” was coming last month, adding to a recent buying frenzy among investors.
They were selling on Wednesday, pushing the prices down more than 4% in early afternoon trading.
I’ll be happy when there’s nothing to report because there are no more sales.
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Unless he steps down as CEO and sells all his shares I don't see a Tesla redemption arc in Europe anytime soon.
And if he does step down as CEO and sell his shares, the stock will tank anyhow. The only reason it's currently about 100x over its realistic value is that people bought into the idea that Elon was this genius who was going to... well who knows. Nothing he could have done would have justified that valuation.
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So, we should be sending people to prison? Cause that's what happened to people involved in dieselgate. Along with the affected cars being recalled and the owners compensated.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Yeah, that actually might work
Of course, Elon would have to be rid of his Tesla shares also
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Europeans still aren't buying Teslas with figures out Wednesday showing sales plunged for a fifth month in a row in May, a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now.
Tesla sales fell 28% last month in 30 European countries even as the overall market for electric vehicles expanded sharply, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. The poor showing comes after Tesla's billionaire CEO had promised a “major rebound” was coming last month, adding to a recent buying frenzy among investors.
They were selling on Wednesday, pushing the prices down more than 4% in early afternoon trading.
At this point if a person buys teslas they are either a Nazi or ignorant and neither is good.
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Europeans still aren't buying Teslas with figures out Wednesday showing sales plunged for a fifth month in a row in May, a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now.
Tesla sales fell 28% last month in 30 European countries even as the overall market for electric vehicles expanded sharply, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. The poor showing comes after Tesla's billionaire CEO had promised a “major rebound” was coming last month, adding to a recent buying frenzy among investors.
They were selling on Wednesday, pushing the prices down more than 4% in early afternoon trading.
Oh no how unfortunate.
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The current move towards electrification would not have happened or would have taken a lot over without Tesla. The Model 3 really was a huge breakthrough by showing that you can build a car that people actually want to drive and make it affordable. That pretty much made all the excuses of the incumbents moot.
I don't think the 3 was a huge breakthrough, although it sure appeared to be, the S/roadster was really where it happened. The leaf had been out for several years, granted it had limited range in its first production models. The 3 was only remarkable because it had higher range at the price point, but that was more of a battery technology thing than a Tesla thing, as the bolt and leaf both had comparable range at the same price point around the same time, they just had the baggage of their manufacturers reputations and/or previous model specs holding back their PR.
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Had a conversation about this the other day with a coworker, albeit about ICE cars but still applicable I think. Car manufacturers made tremendous progress in effeciency and negated all of that by justifying making their cars 2x bigger than they were 20 years ago. It's ridiculous. A modern Subaru Outback is about the same size as a mid-90s Suburban. Gets about the same mileage as my 2001 Outback, even with all the effeciency tech
modern Subaru Outback is about the same size as a mid-90s Suburban.
No it isn't
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So, we should be sending people to prison? Cause that's what happened to people involved in dieselgate. Along with the affected cars being recalled and the owners compensated.
I doubt Elon will go to jail for being an asshole. Tesla may get in troubles for the promises of unsupervised FSD, but that's not the issue here.
I was more thinking about the brand's reputation recovery.
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Could I have a list of these "investors?" Because they sound like fools who deserve to be tricked out of their money.
Just look up the Musk followers on Xitter.
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From the wiki, and I'm simplifying:
VW was handed over to the German government after being offered free-of-charge to Ford in 1948 by the British government (who ran the factory up till then).
In 1946 the produced 1000 cars per month.
In 1949, 2 cars were sold in the US.
In 1952, 12 VWs were sold in Canada.
In 1955 they produced over 1 million Beetles.So 3 years on life support being ran by the British. Dunno how long being run by the German government before becoming GmbH.
The German government sold 60% of the company in 1960. So another 12 years.
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Those advancements were made possible by the Roadster, which was the true pioneering product that made EVs cool again. A car that was dreamed up and invented by Martin Eberhard, and would go on to be built by someone else that gave him the shittiest end of the most shit-covered stick there ever was.
All credit due to Eberhard and Tarpenning for the idea and some of the initial development of the BMS, but its not like they had a full car ready to sell and before Musk came in. Tesla was established as a company in 2003, Musk was brought in (with his money) in 2004. The first Roadster sold in 2008. Now stop making me say anything positive about Musk just to set the record straight. Its making me sick to talk about him positively after what he's become and how much harm he has caused human society.
A TON of work was done before Tesla though, which is what I feel like continually is overlooked. Tesla (the company) was already standing on some very tall shoulders at its inception, and the engineers carried the real innovation forward after the takeover.
