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‘The tyranny of apps’: those without smartphones are unfairly penalised, say campaigners

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  • A [email protected]

    Phones are not listening and if you have proof post it. No security researcher has ever posted this.

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    See:

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    • Cox Media Group (Alternative non-subscriberwalled link here)
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      If you want to read this content, please download our app:
      https://customblogs.vercel.app/download-our-app-please

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      • C [email protected]

        I am still using a flip phone. My new goal is to make it to 2027 marking two decades of rejecting the smartphone era. Each time I consider compromising something gets even more awful about smartphones and I double down on saying no.

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        Don't lose hope, lead the resistance!

        Out of curiosity, how many flip phones have you used since 2007?

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        • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]

          These useless apps make Linux phone adoption harder, fuck them!

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          I still miss firefox os and feel sad for them not succeeding. Their app system could have become a multiplatform standard and allow us to have much more options in the smartphone market, as well as better desktop integration and interoperability 😞

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          • M [email protected]

            most phones now don’t support memory expansion

            Well of course not. If phones supported memory expansion you would just buy more memory, instead of buying an entirely new phone
            Don't even get me started on how bloated these apps have become. I used Paperclip word processor on a Commodore-64; you can not convince me that your app needs to be 50+ Megs in size.

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            And that's one of the benefits from open source apps. I have a very low end and dated phone, and yet I have more apps installed and hardware functionality than the average person, because I grab everything I can from f-droid. It's amazing how much smaller and performant everything is.

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              Don't lose hope, lead the resistance!

              Out of curiosity, how many flip phones have you used since 2007?

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              Out of curiosity, how many flip phones have you used since 2007?

              My current phone is a flip phone. A Samsung Galaxy Flip 5

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              • domino@lemmings.worldD [email protected]

                I want a re-made Bonzi buddy with AI.

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                I don't vouch for these, as I have not used them. But, I found this rewritten one and this one with LLM.

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                  I keep seeing this headline and thinking it's a slur

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                  • Q [email protected]

                    I'm shocked.

                    Right off the top of my head, I can mention an entire finacial institution that only exists through an app. No website, no physical locations, no nothing. It's one app and that is it.

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                    No way would I use that app.

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                    • D [email protected]

                      I for one cheer and root for my flip phone friends.

                      I'd never do it, but we have one at work and he's singlehandedly causing so much grief at work. Because none of the engineers wanna use a security app for login. They want a fob.

                      IT refuses to pay for fobs and wants us to use an app, but they also don't want to pay for a phone for anyone in engineering just to use the security app because it opens a floodgate of people with company phones.

                      It's just wonderful to watch this fight from the sidelines sipping tea.

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                      what's the rationale for IT not wanting to pay for the fobs?

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                      • T [email protected]

                        I'm never trolling about Linux. On Lemmy there are so many cultists that you can say the most innocuous things and it will be downvoted to oblivion or deleted for "trolling". Maybe you don't like calling it a cult but I get more downvoted for negative comments about Linux them other people do when they literally say Nazi things.

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                        innocuous

                        Calling people "cultists" doesn't sound very "innocuous".

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                        • M [email protected]

                          most phones now don’t support memory expansion

                          Well of course not. If phones supported memory expansion you would just buy more memory, instead of buying an entirely new phone
                          Don't even get me started on how bloated these apps have become. I used Paperclip word processor on a Commodore-64; you can not convince me that your app needs to be 50+ Megs in size.

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                          I actually wrote my own text editor for the C-64

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                          • F [email protected]

                            The same goes for customer loyalty cards. All market tracking schemes should be rightfully banned.

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                            What ticks my off is that I have the stupid Safeway card and the stupid Kroger card. But now there's more deals, better deals if I do a digital coupon requiring the app on my phone, too. It's not enough to know about all the regular items in my home, from celery to toilet paper, but they also must need to hoover up all my digital into as well? Dude, just buy it from Meta or whichever jerks have it all. Half-price grapes ain't the right price.

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                            • A [email protected]

                              McDonald's wants your IQ too. Seriously, it's in their privacy policy.

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                              Hello McDonalds. My IQ is 500, so do I get like, free stuff or something?

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                              • B [email protected]

                                Thats actually pretty nice. And on the subject of cars: I don't get why (some) people with E-Cars say they are so much "greener" and then use like 10 different apps for the car, recharging, etc. Those servers produce so much, really, so god damn much CO2... (Not saying combustion engines are better, but...)

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                                My Kia Sportage PHEV came with a "Kia Connect" app. There is a monthly charge but I get first 3 years for free. It's got some sort of useful things but I don't really use it much anymore. More likely than not I won't bother to pay for it when the free years are up.

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                                • T [email protected]

                                  That is what I noticed. Everything these days require app to get shopping vouchers, book tickets, go in to your local gym, pay in store (we are being weaned off from using cash) etc.

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                                  I can't even go to a high school football game without having an app.

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                                  • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

                                    Phone apps are nothing more than modern toolbars. And in case you forgot or missed this phase of the internet...

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                                    needs more sheep

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                                    • a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                      Loyalty cards werent a great thing either.

                                      They werent to reward your loyalty, they were to tie your purchase history to an individual, So that information can be used and sold for marketing purposes.

                                      It was basically the prototype for the invasive, information stealing apps we have today.

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                                      Can't your purchases be tied to you via credit/debit card number? I mean obviously you can use cash, but I don't see a lot of people using cash

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                                        Not having a phone really sucks in this day and age. Imagine getting out of jail for something stupid like marijuana possession and then a parole violation due to a missed appointment. No one will hire you with your rap sheet. You live in a halfway house with a bunch of petty BS every day. And you can't keep up with your parole demands because of how much your lack of a phone gets in your way. At the end of the day, there IS a way to succeed if you make the right choices, but shit, it's just so much harder for some people to make the right choices when every day is crisis mode. And all because of WHAT?

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                                        • Q [email protected]

                                          I'm shocked.

                                          Right off the top of my head, I can mention an entire finacial institution that only exists through an app. No website, no physical locations, no nothing. It's one app and that is it.

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                                          I mean I use Cashapp, but I could also not use it and my life wouldn't be much harder

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