Anon breaks up
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No. Thats 4chan, a place of lies and deception.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_flag_law
Despite being blatantly unconstitutional (deprives a citizen of rights based on an accusation without trial) red flag laws exist in 21 states.
In this particular thread, 4chan is a better source of information than Lemmy.
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"She's probably right." "Dude was probably violent." "Easier to give up your guns than fight this in court" "Just give up your guns!"
Lmao wowww lemmy. Nobody here likes due process?
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Give up hate. Give up facism. Give up excessive consumerism
All sounds fine to me!
Gun ownership =/= fascism
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So you think your 9mm is going to defend you from a government tank when it actually comes down to violence? You're fucked, gun or no gun.
You're forgetting that the US lost 3 wars to guerilla tactics, 2 of those in the last decade
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I'm not worried about the tank, I'm worried about Tim, the guy from two doors down who has seventeen firearms and an F350 and walks around yelling homophobic slurs.
Tim shouldn't be allowed guns either.
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You're forgetting that the US lost 3 wars to guerilla tactics, 2 of those in the last decade
The US lost because of domestic pressure to end those wars. Militarily the US was never in danger of defeat. Do you think that the current US administration is going to give a singular shit about domestic pressure once the shooting starts? If the military sides with the government, the government wins. If the military sides against the government the government loses.
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The comments here are a good example of how the gun control movement is the left-wing counterpart to the pro-life movement. It's origin lies in emotion, not reason. It's filled with fallacious arguements and when that fails to convince someone, the movement tends to move towards snarky comments and outright hostility.
Evem those that are trying to be reasonable by drawing conclusions based on data almost always are using cherry-picked statistics that was fed by those trying to manipulate them.
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I wonder if anon left something out? Like, threating to kill her or the person(s) she cheated with. Or some of the weapons being illegal? Nah, it would have been included if they weren't. Some people have high drama lives.
FYI, women are just as capable of being terrible people as men are
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I'd like to hear her version
Right? I'm sure the BF is a very well adjusted person that just happens to post on 4chan
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"She's probably right." "Dude was probably violent." "Easier to give up your guns than fight this in court" "Just give up your guns!"
Lmao wowww lemmy. Nobody here likes due process?
Lot of US leftists and liberals hate guns, as a reaction to the right’s obsession with them.
It is a stupid and dangerous reaction, because they give up their means of self-defense against far right militias and a fascist government.
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Tim shouldn't be allowed guns either.
Tim ain't gonna give up his guns without violence. Good luck with your proposal now.
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The comments here are a good example of how the gun control movement is the left-wing counterpart to the pro-life movement. It's origin lies in emotion, not reason. It's filled with fallacious arguements and when that fails to convince someone, the movement tends to move towards snarky comments and outright hostility.
Evem those that are trying to be reasonable by drawing conclusions based on data almost always are using cherry-picked statistics that was fed by those trying to manipulate them.
wrote last edited by [email protected]It's very amusing to read such things from outside the American hellscape. Well, "amusing."
Let's say eventually there comes a government overreach that a popular armed uprising puts down. Every day until that day, children die. Accidental death from firearms is one of the leading causes of death of children in your country. (Do you feel that pricking sensation in your neck and face or are you immune to shame?) If the rebellion doesn't come soon enough (or at all) then you are underwater in terms of dead children. So, how long is that runway? How long do you get to keep killing children until you have to admit, fuck, this is costing us more than it's worth?
HAVE YOU EVEN DONE THE MATH, or are you just working from feelings?
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Gun ownership =/= fascism
Agreed. But Americans love both right now
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FYI, women are just as capable of being terrible people as men are
wrote last edited by [email protected]There is a definite bias. Especially, ESPECIALLY when it comes to partner violence. And EVEN MORE ESPECIALLY when it comes to gun violence.
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Lot of US leftists and liberals hate guns, as a reaction to the right’s obsession with them.
It is a stupid and dangerous reaction, because they give up their means of self-defense against far right militias and a fascist government.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You're spot on. I lean HARD left myself and still I'm actively advocating all my friends go out and purchase a firearm while they can. Not for some far fetched rebellion against tyranny, but simply to protect themselves from getting hate-crimed by the scum who will inevitably feel they've been given permission to do so by this regime. Furthermore if they do start deporting citizens for undesirable political behavior, I know I'd rather be six feet under than in CECOT or South Sudan.
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Can afford a bunch of guns and ammo, but can't afford a lawyer to defend yourself in court?
Strange priorities
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FYI, women are just as capable of being terrible people as men are
Sure, but it isn't their side we read.
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So you think your 9mm is going to defend you from a government tank when it actually comes down to violence? You're fucked, gun or no gun.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Tanks need parts, tanks need fuel, tanks need ammo, tanks need constant maintenance. I'm not advocating for violence but the truth is an Abrams might have machine guns and ERA, but a factory doesn't. And look how drone warfare has changed the game, small groups of people can take on tanks, supply lines or factories without even being in line of sight
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Right? I'm sure the BF is a very well adjusted person that just happens to post on 4chan
I mean more often than not, when a woman accuses a man of doing horrible things and the man denies it, the woman is right
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Tim ain't gonna give up his guns without violence. Good luck with your proposal now.
Then Tim is probably going to get himself killed in a standoff with the police.