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  • E [email protected]

    Yeah I know that's my point.

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    #77

    Given the absolutely clueless troubleshooting you suggested in the 2nd paragraph that was not exactly clear

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    • _lordmcnuggets_@feddit.org_ [email protected]

      don't the constant updates also fry your battery over time since they're always designed for the most recent release? never update!

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      #78

      Yes and no. There are two reasons this half truth refuses to die.

      1. IOS does this obnoxious thing after updates where it no longer trusts its index. It changed something about how the index works so rather than update the existing data to the new slightly different format, they say fuck it and reindex the entire phones data. This background process consumes battery and can last up to a week. So people notice the battery life get worse, but they never notice it getting better after the indexing stops and goes back to only noticing changes.
      2. Apple had a big problem a while back where their phones could draw too much power from the batteries. It was fine when new, but as the battery aged, it wasn’t able to deliver stable power to the SoC under heavy loads, making the phone unstable and crashy. So apple just limited the max power the SoC could draw on phones where the otherwise perfectly functional battery could be pushed hard enough to cause problems. It’s annoying, and they could have been more clear, but the rationale was sound. Few will notice a slightly slower phone. Many will notice a phone that suddenly powers off when playing a game.

      Apple does a lot of things wrong but they also do a lot of things right. We really need to pick more rational reasons to hate on apple if we ever expect them to give a shit about our opinions.

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        I stopped reading when it said “$2000 paperweights”. You can dislike Apple for any number of reasons, but this doesn’t make sense. Its products work just fine and they run the software that’s on them.

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        Apple hate threads don't contain main truths.

        Consumers complaining about the products they don't buy is how they justify their choices. Literally no more complicated that than.

        Like watching people who buy mega blok, complaining about how Lego sucks because mega block has a better ramps. Also, they once stepped on a Lego and they have a conspiracy theory around it.

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          Listen. Apple has a vested interest in you buying a new device. They "fix" your phone, it'll be.... What? Maybe $100? .... They sell you a phone and it's like 10x that.

          Most people have so little fucks to give and so little free time to fuck around and find out, that they just shrug and go with it. Apple knows this. If they "can't" (won't) fix it, then it must not be able to be fixed anymore; the thoughts of a typical normie Apple user with more money than sense (or shits to give).

          This is why Apple is a trillion dollar company. They treat their customers like ATMs. Just keep beating that horse until it stops making money.

          If everyone simply replaced the batteries on their phones, not using Apple's service (even when they're willing to do the work), then they probably wouldn't be worth a trillion dollars.

          Since there's enough NPCs out there giving them money to replace perfectly good devices with dead batteries, it will never change.

          When you "trade in" your perfectly working phone for a new one, Apple suddenly absolutely can replace the battery, and they do, and then they sell your "unfixable" phone to the next schmuck, and make even more money.

          I feel like this shit is so obvious that anyone who buys into the line "can't be fixed" from Apple (or any other vendor), is insane, or mentally incapable of making rational decisions.

          I fully accept that if I send my phone for service from the first party (in my case, Google), and they say it "can't" be done, that's not a hard no to fixing my stuff; that's them refusing to serve me. I need to go somewhere else because I've been abandoned by the very people I put my trust into when I bought a device.

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          Says "10x that" for emphasis....under sells

          (Not criticizing, just wallowing in bitter regret)

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          • M [email protected]

            Listen. Apple has a vested interest in you buying a new device. They "fix" your phone, it'll be.... What? Maybe $100? .... They sell you a phone and it's like 10x that.

            Most people have so little fucks to give and so little free time to fuck around and find out, that they just shrug and go with it. Apple knows this. If they "can't" (won't) fix it, then it must not be able to be fixed anymore; the thoughts of a typical normie Apple user with more money than sense (or shits to give).

            This is why Apple is a trillion dollar company. They treat their customers like ATMs. Just keep beating that horse until it stops making money.

            If everyone simply replaced the batteries on their phones, not using Apple's service (even when they're willing to do the work), then they probably wouldn't be worth a trillion dollars.

            Since there's enough NPCs out there giving them money to replace perfectly good devices with dead batteries, it will never change.

            When you "trade in" your perfectly working phone for a new one, Apple suddenly absolutely can replace the battery, and they do, and then they sell your "unfixable" phone to the next schmuck, and make even more money.

            I feel like this shit is so obvious that anyone who buys into the line "can't be fixed" from Apple (or any other vendor), is insane, or mentally incapable of making rational decisions.

            I fully accept that if I send my phone for service from the first party (in my case, Google), and they say it "can't" be done, that's not a hard no to fixing my stuff; that's them refusing to serve me. I need to go somewhere else because I've been abandoned by the very people I put my trust into when I bought a device.

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            inb4 "I got mine for ""free"" from Tmobile!"

            You pay $60 for $25 service to pay off a phone that Tmobile already bought 50k units of.

            You will eventually pay for it, and more.

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            • S [email protected]

              You can't even whisper criticism of capitalism / the free market or you will be labeled a filthy commie.

              Try saying that the Western world has set humanity on a path towards extinction by industrializing without a meaningful thought towards sustainability and youll get a response of BUT CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA (maybe a little India) BUT CHINA by people who are considered well educated and well regarded there. Its that NYT, Washington Post aka American mainstream media brainrot. It's quite rampant.

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              You can't even whisper criticism of capitalism

              Also religion and guns. I've been publicly mocked for it and someone I knew IRL went off on me on social media. So bizarre this land of the free.

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              • C [email protected]

                Apple hate threads don't contain main truths.

                Consumers complaining about the products they don't buy is how they justify their choices. Literally no more complicated that than.

                Like watching people who buy mega blok, complaining about how Lego sucks because mega block has a better ramps. Also, they once stepped on a Lego and they have a conspiracy theory around it.

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                These are the dumbest human beings on planet Earth. Not knowing what a paperweight is and then downvoting me for pointing it out should be subject to imprisonment.

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                • A [email protected]

                  Given the absolutely clueless troubleshooting you suggested in the 2nd paragraph that was not exactly clear

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                  I'm on the opposite extreme, because I don't see how the cluelessness portrayed in the second paragraph detracts from the sarcasm

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                    iPhone XS. They (the Apple Store) said “for insurance reasons” they couldn’t continue trying to put the phone together because they might break another screen.

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                    iPhone XS is child's play, I genuinely can't fathom why a repair shop (Apple store no less) couldn't replace a screen on that device. 7 screws (including the pentalopes) and some heat is all you need. Takes 5 minutes of actual repair and another 2 or 3 to run the calibration software.

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                      Did you guys have a heat gun?

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                      We used a hot plate that we could dial specifically to 70c so there was less risk of damaging the battery. Just leave the phone face down on it to bake, and after a few minutes the adhesive pulls apart easily.

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