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China is the lesser evil.

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  • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

    A random Chinese entrepreneur isn't really representative of China?

    Maybe China will prove it's just as evil as the West, but it hasn't so far. Insisting it inevitably will is just speculation, because the Chinese development banks that loan to the third world are less evil than the IMF/World Bank, and the Belt and Road initiative is less evil than Western free trade agreements.

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    If China is so great, why does it have so many billionaires?

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    • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

      China is the lesser evil.

      Don't you liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil?

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      It is funny how you guys always becomes complete fans of the "lesser evil". As if it is not actually considered the "lesser evil" by you, but "the absolute best and most fantastic thing that exists".

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      • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

        China is the lesser evil.

        Don't you liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil?

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        Eesti piir käib vastu hiina müüri! lennubaas everesti tippus!

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        • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

          China is the lesser evil.

          Don't you liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil?

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          Go ask the Uyghurs if they also think China is the lesser evil.

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            Go ask the Uyghurs if they also think China is the lesser evil.

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            I have, most of them don't consider it evil at all. Funny how Westerners always say "go ask people living there" when they absolutely mean "trust the West"

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              It is funny how you guys always becomes complete fans of the "lesser evil". As if it is not actually considered the "lesser evil" by you, but "the absolute best and most fantastic thing that exists".

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              Which is exactly how the liberals who talk about "lesser evil" feel about the democratic party

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                Pretty ironic for someone named queermunist to support a regime which has openly made anti-queer remarks and anti-queer legislation.

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                And it's objectively better to queer people than much of the West. Fuck I hate western liberals using us as a shield for their bigotry. Just like how you say "Hamas is homophobic!" to justify killing every one in Gaza, including the queer people

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                • ___@graffitiwall.net_ [email protected]

                  cant think of China as the lesser evil when they keep harassing Philippine vessels in Philippine waters.

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                  Yeah man, that's much worse than anything the West is doing....

                  Do you people hear yourselves?

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                    Go to China then and be happy.

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                    "If you don't love America, you can geeeeeet ouuuuut".

                    Modern liberals are just Bush era conservatives

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                    • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                      Literally Orientalism.

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                      I fucking hate the word orientalism. We look like that. We eat funny stuff. We dress weird. As long as there's no hate you can fucking laugh at it.

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                        Oh, I've mostly stopped arguing with tankies. I'm just trolling a little at this point.

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                        I appreciate that but if you troll them with dumb takes and bad faith arguments, you are only strengthening their views and making them look smarter

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                          "If you don't love America, you can geeeeeet ouuuuut".

                          Modern liberals are just Bush era conservatives

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                          Why do you make this about america?

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                            Lol, you literally couldn't even wait for them to respond before trying to get your come back in

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                              I appreciate that but if you troll them with dumb takes and bad faith arguments, you are only strengthening their views and making them look smarter

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                              making them look smarter

                              I doubt that's possible. Just have a look at the newest answer to my comment, apparently this is about america now despite me being german on a german instance and just suggesting to "go there" and not "leave [country]". Everyone here must be 'murican I guess.

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                              • oatscoop@midwest.socialO [email protected]

                                Westerners

                                TIL the Chinese people on Weibo that originally created and spread the meme are "Westerners".

                                Oh boy, look at what rather unfortunately named character they compared President Obama to! I bet if we were evil imperialists we'd claim that was intentional and a disgusting example of racism. Can you imagine the kind of person who would make such a bad-faith argument?

                                Good thing we're not like those guys, eh comrade?

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                                If conservatives (and only conservatives) were always calling Obama "Tigger" obsessively at every junction, and referencing that picture as justification, would you believe them? Or would you say recognise that they were just being racist.

                                Because thats how I feel when I see western liberals doing this and trying to claim they're just referencing a meme from before half of them were even in primary school

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                                • venus_ziegenfalle@feddit.orgV [email protected]

                                  Stopped reading after the first sentence

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                                  Of course you did, liberals cannot allow their minds to be corrupted by opposing views

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                                    It is funny how you guys always becomes complete fans of the "lesser evil". As if it is not actually considered the "lesser evil" by you, but "the absolute best and most fantastic thing that exists".

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                                    You mean like how Kamala Harris was the lesser evil that noone ever should criticize for any reason?

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                                    • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                      Ergo propter hoc. Nice try though.

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                                      I'm begging you people to stop just reading off random Latin phrases from the Wikipedia logical fallacies page because you saw people doing it on Reddit and think they're magic incantations that you can cast to win arguments

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                                      • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                        Are you applying it as a negative to libs? If so, then my reply stands. You created an argument via propter hoc… and it should be discarded. If you intended something different them you should reword your argument to something more substantial than “libs choose less sucky thing so they should like China.”

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                                        You created an argument via propter hoc… and it should be discarded

                                        Fallacy fallacy. Nice try though.

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                                          If China is so great, why does it have so many billionaires?

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                                          The fact that that number is decreasing even while it's overall wealth is increasing is more than you'd ever see in the West

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