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    Baton drawn, absolutely ready to start shit

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      https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-says-floridians-have-right-hit-protesters-cars-2084418

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      Not in florida but I will hit you if you run up on me. I assume it is a car jacking.

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        Call swat on them.

        "Hello police? There are armed masked men waiting next to a black unmarked van eyeballing women as they walk by. I'm afraid when I leave they are going to try to abduct someone.

        No they aren't law enforcement"

        If they don't get guns pointed at them then you will make 4 thugs waste most of their day and piss them off.

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        Local police is probably made aware in advance so it would end with the dispatcher

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          Local police is probably made aware in advance so it would end with the dispatcher

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          Possibly, but some local police do have a policy of only giving ICE exactly the legally required room to operate, and no more.

          Reporting ICE in every time creates opportunities for local law enforcement to catch ICE in any mistake. (Yes, I do realize the irony of this recommenation.)

          ICE probably aren't great about keeping everyone informed. They appear to, today, keep poor records intentionally.

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            Correction: 4 masked terrorists.

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              These are most likely members of the proud boys not ice.

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                Because the people who wear firearms are the ones who are okay with what's happening.

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                This is partly true. Also, contrary to mall-ninja rhetoric, one doesn't and shouldn't primarily carry to go be a vigilante hero, but as a last resort for their own protection. I'll admit my original comment was coming from strong emotion. Lol

                I think the discourse on self-protection has taken a bizarre turn during our lifetimes, where the right and the NRA turned firearms into an unhealthy fetish, and the liberal politicians turned them into frightening campfire stories by spreading fear and ignorance. Both just using it as another tug-rope to "Be opposite those other guys."

                Shockingly, there are plenty of normal, responsible armed people who fit neither category. Even socialists. They're just quiet and respectable so they go unnoticed.

                But on the whole, this cultural propaganda has resulted in a heavily skewed situation where those with the means to deter tyranny are in lockstep with it, and those with the will to deter tyranny get a bit flummoxed when clever signs aren't enough.

                I'm very torn myself, because clever non-violent solutions are obviously preferred, but at the same time these thugs are bullies and cowards, who tend to be confused and frightened when they actually encounter resistance from their would-be victims.

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                  Looks like the mafia

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                    So what are the chances these dudes couldn't wear masks during covid cause it made it too hard to breath?

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                      These are most likely members of the proud boys not ice.

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                      I mean... 2 things can be true. Why do u think he pardoned them?

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                        Serious Watchmen vibes

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                          I mean... 2 things can be true. Why do u think he pardoned them?

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                          So that they could act in an unofficial capacity to strike fear for his regime and serve as loyal little bitch puppets.

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                            Someone put "MS 13" in power point text boxes on their shirts already.

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                            I'm sure a quality temp tattoo will have a decent effect.

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                            • mrmanager@lemmy.todayM [email protected]

                              Its hard to know online but yeah, I was.

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                              Don't worry, we all know that your response to fascism is to do nothing.

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                              • fauxpseudo@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                You can only use proportional force to defend yourself under stand your ground laws. If you stab someone that is only using their body parts then you go to jail. Will a jury convict? It will take a year or two to find out.

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                                Not here. Self Defense was proportional response. Stand your ground means you can shoot someone who hasn’t even touched you if they break your car window

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                                  That's not true in all states. In Florida, if you feel genuinely threatened, you can respond with deadly force, no matter what the other guy is threatening you with.

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                                  And people who write things like that and immediately got a stabbing are definitely not from the same area as you and I must be because whenI think of my self-defence weapon, it’s not my knife

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                                  • fauxpseudo@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                    If you stand your ground you still go to jail. Even if you are released you still got more inconvenienced than them.

                                    As a white person I'm at minimal risk from them. But in order to stand your ground for another person they must have a legal right to be where they are. And if they are, in fact, not legally here, then bad things happen to you.

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                                    I might still go to jail, but I have taken all of them out so they will never be another problem.

                                    The ones here don’t wear body armour because that would make them stick out more

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                                      Easy there, boss. That depends heavily on what state you're in. And the ones that have "stand your ground" and "castle doctrine" are usually the ones where local police are openly coordinating with ICE.

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                                      Yeah. Understand your ground you still get arrested when you kill someone. You don’t have to deal with the police you go straight to a local Judge, Who in my county has already ruled people shooting off duty police officers moonlighting as security is perfectly legal

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                                        Interesting that Americans always argue that they need their guns in case the government goes rouge. So many comments say that they will get shot, because they absolutely look like kidnappers, yet nothing happens. Looks like you keep those guns around just for a higher suicide rate and school shootings.

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                                        • presidentcamacho@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                                          I wrote a simple formula for it the other day actually

                                          def shoot_masked_gunman(color, job):
                                               you = 2 if color == "white" else 0
                                               masked_gunman = 100 if job == "cop" else 1
                                          
                                               if you > masked_gunman :
                                                   print("The justice system works!")
                                               else:
                                                   print("Life without parole")
                                          
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                                          Why are the first two ifs in infix notation and the third isn't?

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