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iFixit Says Switch 2 Is Probably Still Drift Prone

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    Gotta cash in on people buying replacements after 6 months

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      Stop pushing down so hard on the sticks.

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      • ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

        Pennies on one console become millions of pennies on millions of consoles. It's obviously stupid but it's all there is to it.

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        Which is just a footnote to Nintendo's profits. Let's not forget the difference between a 1 Million and 1 Billion is roughly 1 Billion.

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        • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

          So they decided that magnetic joycons versus a new rail design were worth another set of drift lawsuits.

          Because any potential new drift lawsuit is going to cite the old one as clear proof that Nintendo knew what would happen, had the opportunity to change the design so it didn't, and decided to do it again anyway.

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          Nintendo choosing the option that is actively worse for everyone including themselves goes well with my theory that Nintendo is actually just evil and making decisions based on spite and disdain for their customers and fans.

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          • coelacanth@feddit.nuC [email protected]

            Nintendo choosing the option that is actively worse for everyone including themselves goes well with my theory that Nintendo is actually just evil and making decisions based on spite and disdain for their customers and fans.

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            Bruh, go touch some grass.

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              Which is just a footnote to Nintendo's profits. Let's not forget the difference between a 1 Million and 1 Billion is roughly 1 Billion.

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              You think it is important that the gain is small? For a company like Nintendo, number goes up means great! Number goes slight down, oh noes!

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              • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                Of course it is. Unless they switched to hall effect sticks, which they already said they weren't doing. For whatever reason, they still want to save the pennies instead of using the better component even after the previous issues and lawsuits. Why do companies insist on shooting themselves in the foot constantly?

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                Wht spend pennies when you can sell more conrollers? They know that Nintendo boys don't care about money

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                  Stop pushing down so hard on the sticks.

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                  “You’re holding it wrong.”

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                    Seems like a really dumb move after how much the previous lawsuit must have cost them.

                    I'm sure they did some kind of cost/benefit analysis, but it's still fucking dumb imo.

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                      Wht spend pennies when you can sell more conrollers? They know that Nintendo boys don't care about money

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                      They were literally forced to fix/replace broken joycons for free because of the drift issue. In case you weren't aware. I sent two sets away to be fixed, all expenses paid.

                      That costs them lots of money.

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                        Stop pushing down so hard on the sticks.

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                        Damn, where were you when Nintendo got sued a few years back? Had they had this airtight defense back then, maybe they wouldn't have had to spend millions of dollars repairing people's broken joy-cons for free.

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                          They were literally forced to fix/replace broken joycons for free because of the drift issue. In case you weren't aware. I sent two sets away to be fixed, all expenses paid.

                          That costs them lots of money.

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                          Probably made more from every schmuck who didn't know they would be replaced for free and bought extra.

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                            Probably made more from every schmuck who didn't know they would be replaced for free and bought extra.

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                            Yeah, exactly this. I'm sure they did the math.

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                            • P [email protected]

                              Seems like a really dumb move after how much the previous lawsuit must have cost them.

                              I'm sure they did some kind of cost/benefit analysis, but it's still fucking dumb imo.

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                              I’m sure they did some kind of cost/benefit analysis, but it’s still fucking dumb imo.

                              The host of what was yesterday the most viewed teardown on YouTube speculated that the string joycon magnets may interfere with hall effect sticks.

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                                For what it's worth, we've had non-Hall Effect sticks for generations, and they've mostly been fine on everything else but JoyCons. We won't know whether these actually are as fragile as original JoyCons were until we start hearing reports of broken sticks.

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                                  For what it's worth, we've had non-Hall Effect sticks for generations, and they've mostly been fine on everything else but JoyCons. We won't know whether these actually are as fragile as original JoyCons were until we start hearing reports of broken sticks.

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                                  Hard disagree. If you have a non hall effect controller long enough it will degrade. Its a frustrating issue even if you know how to repair it. At this point I just don't buy those types of controllers anymore since there are other options often with better prices. I'm not as familiar with the joycon third party market though.

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                                    Hard disagree. If you have a non hall effect controller long enough it will degrade. Its a frustrating issue even if you know how to repair it. At this point I just don't buy those types of controllers anymore since there are other options often with better prices. I'm not as familiar with the joycon third party market though.

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                                    I've had non-Hall Effect controllers for as long as I've been gaming, which is to say since the N64, and JoyCon 1s are the only ones I've ever had problems with. This is brand new tech, we've lived without it before. Sure, it would be nice to have, but I feel like people are just hastily jumping to the assumption that these controllers will be just as brittle as JoyCon 1s were. That is an assumption we do not know.

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                                      I've had non-Hall Effect controllers for as long as I've been gaming, which is to say since the N64, and JoyCon 1s are the only ones I've ever had problems with. This is brand new tech, we've lived without it before. Sure, it would be nice to have, but I feel like people are just hastily jumping to the assumption that these controllers will be just as brittle as JoyCon 1s were. That is an assumption we do not know.

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                                      I still don't have issues with the Joycons after a few years. We don't use it a ton, but we do have kids mashing the joysticks in Smash and it has held up so far. We have two sets of Joycons and a Pro controller, and none have drift issues.

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                                        Hall effect encoders/sticks are not new tech. They've been around for decades.

                                        Remember the Sega Dreamcast? It came out 26 years ago and featured hall effect sticks in the controllers.

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                                          No, they haven't. Old Xbox and PlayStation controllers often end up with stick drift being what kills them.

                                          On top of that, newer games that have deadzone settings actually let you see how much games have to compensate for stick drift.

                                          A normal 'working' controller, is likely unable to use the first 10% of it's motion range because it has to filter that out for stick drift. That makes the controls feel way less responsive compared to a hall effect stick where you can eliminate or minimize the deadzone.

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