Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

agnos.is Forums

  1. Home
  2. memes
  3. Creative Title

Creative Title

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved memes
memes
180 Posts 90 Posters 0 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • T [email protected]

    Bitcoin is really bad for using as currency, due to the fact that there is a permanent, public ledger of all transactions. Why would you want anyone you pay to be able to see and trace every transaction you've ever made? Pay rent in bitcoin, now your landlord can calculate your spending and who you do transactions with. And yes, there are services that aggregate and obfuscate transactions in order to make them less traceable, but now you've just reinvented the same centralized payment processor system that the whole thing is supposed to be replacing... so... what's the point?

    Cash is good for using as currency.

    T This user is from outside of this forum
    T This user is from outside of this forum
    [email protected]
    wrote last edited by
    #104

    That's a bad argument. Visa, MasterCard, etc. know who you're transacting with anyway. That is functionally equivalent to just paying from a Coinbase Bitcoin wallet. On the public ledger, it'll only show a transaction from a Coinbase wallet. No one would know it's you other than Coinbase and the porn provider

    Woth crypto you could at least send it to your wallet, throw it through Tornado Cash, then put it in another wallet, making it extremely difficult to track

    In general though, if the government wants to know who made a digital transaction, they'll be able to find out. Doesn't matter if you use a credit card or crypto

    What makes Bitcoin bad as a currency is the slow, expensive transaction times

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • onewomancreamteam@sh.itjust.worksO [email protected]

      Nah, I'm pretty sure it was r/comedynecromancy. They took unfunny comics/memes and made them funny. They were an offshoot of r/comedycemetary, they just reposted unfunny comics/memes to poke fun at.

      J This user is from outside of this forum
      J This user is from outside of this forum
      [email protected]
      wrote last edited by
      #105

      Could be a case of parallel evolution.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • T [email protected]

        If it is true that total pool of currency needs to be able to grow with the economy then the rate one variable grows must be linked to the rate the other grows.

        You're just repeating the same mistake. We both agree this is not true, as in the economy can grow while the currency pool stays constant. They change independent from each other. It's just really bad when they both don't grow on a similar scale. They only need to grow at the same rate in order to maintain a healthy growing economy. The relationship/link between them is that when they get too out of sync, there will be a correction.

        The great depression was caused by a stock market over inflated with leverage. This has nothing to do with the gold standard.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression#Attempts_to_return_to_the_Gold_Standard Again, facts and history disagrees with you. It's literally the very first on the list of causes lol

        And notice how we have deviated from the topic of deflation.

        You're certainly trying to, but I have not.

        The great depression occurred because there was too much debt.

        LOL. YES!!! DING DING DING! And how does deflation impact debt? Does it increase or decrease debt? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_deflation 😊

        Kind of wild that you can admit that the worst economic downturn of all history was caused by debt, that deflation and inflation impact the way debt works, and in the very same paragraph say that "There is absolutely no evidence that deflation itself is bad." without a shred of self-reflection or irony. So, you understand that debt causes depressions, but simultaneously think an economic force that amplifies debt is totally harmless?? Make it make sense!!

        K This user is from outside of this forum
        K This user is from outside of this forum
        [email protected]
        wrote last edited by
        #106

        During World War I, many countries suspended their gold standard in varying ways

        It's in the first line. The cause here is WWI, not the great depression. These are countries going broke and abandoning the gold standard because of war, not because they are experiencing deflation.

        A state of over-indebtedness exists, this will tend to lead to liquidation, through the alarm either of debtors or creditors or both.

        Exactly. The quantity of debt relative to GDP is what is of concern. You are linking to the right things. Go back, reread them and then take a long walk and have a good think.

        T 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • stellarst0rm@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

          Not really a meme meme, but i felt like i had to :s

          P This user is from outside of this forum
          P This user is from outside of this forum
          [email protected]
          wrote last edited by
          #107

          I wonder how long this will last. The NSFW industry is insanely huge. If the current payment processors cut it off, that leaves a giant gap in the market just waiting to get filled (😏).

          If they hold firm on this, it might just be a rare opportunity for a new (and hopefully better) payment processor to enter the market.

          Or maybe just wider crypto adoption, idk.

          Z 1 Reply Last reply
          14
          • K [email protected]

            During World War I, many countries suspended their gold standard in varying ways

            It's in the first line. The cause here is WWI, not the great depression. These are countries going broke and abandoning the gold standard because of war, not because they are experiencing deflation.

            A state of over-indebtedness exists, this will tend to lead to liquidation, through the alarm either of debtors or creditors or both.

            Exactly. The quantity of debt relative to GDP is what is of concern. You are linking to the right things. Go back, reread them and then take a long walk and have a good think.

            T This user is from outside of this forum
            T This user is from outside of this forum
            [email protected]
            wrote last edited by [email protected]
            #108

            The cause here is WWI, not the great depression.

            Huh? Your reading comprehension needs some work. This is a list of causes of the Great Depression. Of course the Great Depression is not a cause of the Great Depression. The first cause of the Great Depression in the list is... (drum roll, please): the effects of the gold standard!!!

            abandoning the gold standard because of war

            Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm what about war causes deflationary currency to be unsuitable? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 And are those conditions exclusive to war? Checkmate. That was easy!

            K 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • N [email protected]

              So, this means that pretty much any paid adult content can't accept visa, right? Or are they just stomping in the small creators for not being profitable enough?

              Looking at you, OnlyFans..

              J This user is from outside of this forum
              J This user is from outside of this forum
              [email protected]
              wrote last edited by
              #109

              OnlyFans felt the pressure not too long ago. It's just when they announced they were banning porn, they realized they didn't have anything else. So they reversed course and somehow can still take payments.

              lootboblin@lemmy.worldL 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • T [email protected]

                The cause here is WWI, not the great depression.

                Huh? Your reading comprehension needs some work. This is a list of causes of the Great Depression. Of course the Great Depression is not a cause of the Great Depression. The first cause of the Great Depression in the list is... (drum roll, please): the effects of the gold standard!!!

                abandoning the gold standard because of war

                Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm what about war causes deflationary currency to be unsuitable? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 And are those conditions exclusive to war? Checkmate. That was easy!

                K This user is from outside of this forum
                K This user is from outside of this forum
                [email protected]
                wrote last edited by
                #110

                The conditions mean that debts cannot be repaid. Thats the fear. Not because the gradual increasing purchasing power of the underlying currency that actually benefits the bondholders.

                Take a walk. Have a think.

                T 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • K [email protected]

                  The conditions mean that debts cannot be repaid. Thats the fear. Not because the gradual increasing purchasing power of the underlying currency that actually benefits the bondholders.

                  Take a walk. Have a think.

                  T This user is from outside of this forum
                  T This user is from outside of this forum
                  [email protected]
                  wrote last edited by [email protected]
                  #111

                  The conditions mean that debts cannot be repaid

                  Does deflation make debt easier or harder to repay? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

                  Again, an econ 101 class would really help you

                  K 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • K [email protected]

                    Crypto is not a currency
                    Is an environmental disaster
                    Has massive deflation

                    My first response delt with this. Only bitcoin is an environmental disaster. Deflation is only relevant if you hold a currency long term. Irrelevant for payment processing.

                    Seriously, the fuck are we doing here?

                    We are discussing how to counter the monopoly stranglehold of payment processors. Crypto is a possible solution that is viable today.

                    C This user is from outside of this forum
                    C This user is from outside of this forum
                    [email protected]
                    wrote last edited by
                    #112

                    Alright. Here's an argument why crypto doesn't do that.

                    Today:
                    Me
                    Payment processor
                    Vendor

                    Crypto tomorrow:
                    Me
                    Payment processor
                    Crypto
                    Crypto fees
                    Payment processor
                    Vendor

                    So not only am I paying the payment processor twice as much for the interaction (it doesn't matter which processor, since the issue at hand is their monopoly) thus rewarding their censorship, I also wasted a whole bunch more money for the privilege.

                    K 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • stellarst0rm@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                      Not really a meme meme, but i felt like i had to :s

                      niva@discuss.tchncs.deN This user is from outside of this forum
                      niva@discuss.tchncs.deN This user is from outside of this forum
                      [email protected]
                      wrote last edited by
                      #113

                      I don't get it. Will they also ban sex shops, adult cinemas and every other offline adult entertainment thing that exist?

                      captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.comC P 2 Replies Last reply
                      2
                      • C [email protected]

                        Alright. Here's an argument why crypto doesn't do that.

                        Today:
                        Me
                        Payment processor
                        Vendor

                        Crypto tomorrow:
                        Me
                        Payment processor
                        Crypto
                        Crypto fees
                        Payment processor
                        Vendor

                        So not only am I paying the payment processor twice as much for the interaction (it doesn't matter which processor, since the issue at hand is their monopoly) thus rewarding their censorship, I also wasted a whole bunch more money for the privilege.

                        K This user is from outside of this forum
                        K This user is from outside of this forum
                        [email protected]
                        wrote last edited by [email protected]
                        #114

                        Yes, the round trip is more expensive.

                        But if you receive some income in crypto and park it in a stablecoin (like USDC) then you can avoid the price volatility risks and round trip fees. The crypto fees are much less than 2% and this also avoids rewarding censorship.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • T [email protected]

                          The conditions mean that debts cannot be repaid

                          Does deflation make debt easier or harder to repay? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

                          Again, an econ 101 class would really help you

                          K This user is from outside of this forum
                          K This user is from outside of this forum
                          [email protected]
                          wrote last edited by [email protected]
                          #115

                          Deflation makes debt harder to repay and it rewards the debt owners with greater purchasing power.

                          This means deflation is actually a good thing for half of the economy (the bond holders). Not the monster it is always made out as being.

                          Again. The amount of debt is the worry, not the gradual change in value of the denomination.

                          T 1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • W [email protected]

                            How are those related? It is possible for some conservatives to want to purge LGBT voices from the internet at the same time other conservatives want to advance crypto. These are not mutually exclusive goals.

                            Z This user is from outside of this forum
                            Z This user is from outside of this forum
                            [email protected]
                            wrote last edited by
                            #116

                            It does however look really bad that such a massive criminal organization (trump and co) are pushing for it so hard.

                            All of this before getting into just how insanely wasteful and terrible for the world that crypto is.

                            Sorry that it helps a few artists, but the cost for everyone else is significantly higher to embrace what crypto is.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • K [email protected]

                              Deflation makes debt harder to repay and it rewards the debt owners with greater purchasing power.

                              This means deflation is actually a good thing for half of the economy (the bond holders). Not the monster it is always made out as being.

                              Again. The amount of debt is the worry, not the gradual change in value of the denomination.

                              T This user is from outside of this forum
                              T This user is from outside of this forum
                              [email protected]
                              wrote last edited by
                              #117

                              Again. The amount of debt is the worry

                              Does deflation increase or decrease the amount of debt? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

                              I could literally do this all day lol its effortless to just be correct. It must be exhausting to need to constantly spin the argument and futily reconcile the inconsistencies and mental gymnastics of your position.

                              K 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • T [email protected]

                                Again. The amount of debt is the worry

                                Does deflation increase or decrease the amount of debt? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

                                I could literally do this all day lol its effortless to just be correct. It must be exhausting to need to constantly spin the argument and futily reconcile the inconsistencies and mental gymnastics of your position.

                                K This user is from outside of this forum
                                K This user is from outside of this forum
                                [email protected]
                                wrote last edited by
                                #118

                                Does deflation increase or decrease the amount of debt? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

                                Neither. If you currently owe $100 (interest free) then next year you still owe $100.

                                I could literally do this all day lol its effortless to just be correct.

                                Of course it's effortless. You are asking questions and not thinking for yourself. I'm the only one giving explanations and providing the correct responses.

                                T 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • K [email protected]

                                  Does deflation increase or decrease the amount of debt? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

                                  Neither. If you currently owe $100 (interest free) then next year you still owe $100.

                                  I could literally do this all day lol its effortless to just be correct.

                                  Of course it's effortless. You are asking questions and not thinking for yourself. I'm the only one giving explanations and providing the correct responses.

                                  T This user is from outside of this forum
                                  T This user is from outside of this forum
                                  [email protected]
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #119

                                  Wrong, good try though. Yes, you owe $100, but each dollar is worth more, meaning you owe a greater "real value" (that's an econ 101 term you should look up), or in otherwords, the debt increased.

                                  and providing the correct responses

                                  😂

                                  K 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • niva@discuss.tchncs.deN [email protected]

                                    I don't get it. Will they also ban sex shops, adult cinemas and every other offline adult entertainment thing that exist?

                                    captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.comC This user is from outside of this forum
                                    captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.comC This user is from outside of this forum
                                    [email protected]
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #120

                                    Now that weed is being widely accepted legally, porn is the new prohibition.

                                    S 1 Reply Last reply
                                    1
                                    • T [email protected]

                                      Wrong, good try though. Yes, you owe $100, but each dollar is worth more, meaning you owe a greater "real value" (that's an econ 101 term you should look up), or in otherwords, the debt increased.

                                      and providing the correct responses

                                      😂

                                      K This user is from outside of this forum
                                      K This user is from outside of this forum
                                      [email protected]
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #121

                                      Nope. The debt is still $100. There is no increase.

                                      Being slightly harder to pay back is irrelevant if there are now only $50 of assets in the economy.

                                      The inability to repay debt caused the great depression, not deflation.

                                      T 1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • K [email protected]

                                        Nope. The debt is still $100. There is no increase.

                                        Being slightly harder to pay back is irrelevant if there are now only $50 of assets in the economy.

                                        The inability to repay debt caused the great depression, not deflation.

                                        T This user is from outside of this forum
                                        T This user is from outside of this forum
                                        [email protected]
                                        wrote last edited by [email protected]
                                        #122

                                        Nope nope! You're just denying deflation exists, now?? 😂 That'll work. This is where mental gymnastics gets you. Sad!

                                        Well, looks like I've won.

                                        K 1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • T [email protected]

                                          Nope nope! You're just denying deflation exists, now?? 😂 That'll work. This is where mental gymnastics gets you. Sad!

                                          Well, looks like I've won.

                                          K This user is from outside of this forum
                                          K This user is from outside of this forum
                                          [email protected]
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #123

                                          Why is deflation bad?

                                          T 1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups