Professor's got it right
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Someone being LGBT doesn't mean McDonald's is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership. Why the fuck do you think a doctor should be allowed to refuse them treatment for a disease?
What? They can totally do those things. They are private businesses who can reject whomever they want. Protected classes are only protected for things like housing, employment, and public things (school/utilities/etc.)
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What if I wanna be a chaotic-good doctor and deny nazis treatment?
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Someone being LGBT doesn't mean McDonald's is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership. Why the fuck do you think a doctor should be allowed to refuse them treatment for a disease?
Someone being LGBT doesnβt mean McDonaldβs is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership.
Patience, patience ... the GOP is working on this as well.
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I know. It was more a post covidal rant at the nurses. Even if you are at your limit those masks are self protection.
Yeah for sure, it must've been that much more frustrating for the nurses that understood the importance of PPE having to work with ones that didn't.
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What? They can totally do those things. They are private businesses who can reject whomever they want. Protected classes are only protected for things like housing, employment, and public things (school/utilities/etc.)
If that were true, the US would still have segregated lunch counters, grocery stores, and private buses. The Supreme Court may be getting us on the way there one day, but right now the only way that private businesses are allowed to discriminate against protected classes is to call the output work a "creative expression" like website design, floral arrangement, or cake decoration, and that's from the 303 Creative case.
Besides, how would it make sense if a company could bar you as a customer for being gay, but be compelled to employ you?
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Human beings were obviously a terrible idea.
I still think Jennifer Love Hewitt was a great idea.
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Someone being LGBT doesn't mean McDonald's is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership. Why the fuck do you think a doctor should be allowed to refuse them treatment for a disease?
Wasn't there a bakery that won a case allowing them not to sell wedding cakes to gay couples?
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Look I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this but let's try and be a little nuance about this.
I don't think it is moral to force someone to do something they don't want to do for whatever reason. Eg u shouldn't be allowed to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to completion. Nor should u be forced to help said person end that pregnancy if you don't want to. I think if u don't want to end it you should be forced to give them the contact of someone who will.
If you are going to force someone to medically treat someone for something you don't want to do, u by definition do not believe it is beneficial to them and is thus a violation of ur oath.
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never have refused. never will.
But do u think its important that u retain the right to? Even if you don't intend to use it.
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Not suddenly, but gradually
Very much not true for all. Some realise things over time, but most were born like they are. Some also do choose things, but it's a very small percentage and that in no way makes it any less important to accept and support.
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If medical professionals are punished for refusing to treat patients because of race, then the same goes for refusing to treat someone for "having different lifestyle".
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Look I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this but let's try and be a little nuance about this.
I don't think it is moral to force someone to do something they don't want to do for whatever reason. Eg u shouldn't be allowed to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to completion. Nor should u be forced to help said person end that pregnancy if you don't want to. I think if u don't want to end it you should be forced to give them the contact of someone who will.
If you are going to force someone to medically treat someone for something you don't want to do, u by definition do not believe it is beneficial to them and is thus a violation of ur oath.
If you become a medical profession, do your job. End of story. Leave your personal crap at the door or get a new job.
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Look I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this but let's try and be a little nuance about this.
I don't think it is moral to force someone to do something they don't want to do for whatever reason. Eg u shouldn't be allowed to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to completion. Nor should u be forced to help said person end that pregnancy if you don't want to. I think if u don't want to end it you should be forced to give them the contact of someone who will.
If you are going to force someone to medically treat someone for something you don't want to do, u by definition do not believe it is beneficial to them and is thus a violation of ur oath.
The oath is broken before anyone forced anything. Treat people, or find another career because health care is incompatible with this homophobic bullshit.
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But do u think its important that u retain the right to? Even if you don't intend to use it.
the right to refuse providing life saving service to someone? even if I consider the person no longer a human because they chose to become a nazi?
not an actual right. if you canβt provide it, to everyone, even people who disgust you, youβre in the wrong industry.
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the right to refuse providing life saving service to someone? even if I consider the person no longer a human because they chose to become a nazi?
not an actual right. if you canβt provide it, to everyone, even people who disgust you, youβre in the wrong industry.
Interesting so you would feel obligated to save Hitlers life from an injury that would be fatal without ur intervention?
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Interesting so you would feel obligated to save Hitlers life from an injury that would be fatal without ur intervention?
reductio ad absurdum.
the guy having a heart attack by the mcdonalds with nazi tattoos is a nazi. not the same as literal hitler. still an inhuman piece of shit. still worthless. still required to provide care. not the target of a worldwide multinational military operation requiring millions of russians to take berlin.
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They gradually do not choose to be themselves? I donβt understand.
M137 understood what I meant.
I believe that people are born with the same primitive instincts as everyone else, (survive and reproduce) but they gradually begin to develop their own feelings and sense of being. Some natural, some by trauma, etc, overcoming the expectations of your parents being the biggest hurdle.
I'm just simply saying that people aren't born knowing they're a part of that community until they've come to a realization or a spark.
Just my opinion. Just how I observed a family member and his experiences. Sadly, no one accepted him and he's gone now. But I read his journals about how he felt, came to being, etc afterwards. Just wanted to understand.
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The oath is broken before anyone forced anything. Treat people, or find another career because health care is incompatible with this homophobic bullshit.
Depends on the oath. Most say "according to my ability and judgment" which I think would include ones personal moral judgement.
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If you become a medical profession, do your job. End of story. Leave your personal crap at the door or get a new job.
If u become a soldier do ur job leave ur personal crap at the door or get a new job. U just justified the actions of the Nazis "I'm just following orders".
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reductio ad absurdum.
the guy having a heart attack by the mcdonalds with nazi tattoos is a nazi. not the same as literal hitler. still an inhuman piece of shit. still worthless. still required to provide care. not the target of a worldwide multinational military operation requiring millions of russians to take berlin.
reductio ad absurdum.
I don't think so. If you do not retain the right to refuse service you must save Hitlers life. Given that the logic leads us to this ultimatum u must choose save Hitlers life ur retain the right to refuse service based on personal moral views.
