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  • S [email protected]

    The hyperbole here is insane. My trans friend’s Japanese parents are supportive of him, but they have some trouble with pronouns. If you’re not a native English speaker and learned the standard pronouns, then I think it’s just naturally too confusing. Pretty much all of them are translating in their minds in real-time.

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    #156

    The hyperbole here is insane. My trans friend’s Japanese parents are supportive of him, but they have some trouble with pronouns.

    Can you really not understand that we're talking about two completely different situations?

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    • S [email protected]

      There's a big difference between negating the existence of people and what happend in this case, i.e. somebody writing a comment (only visible to him and other developers) using the male form.

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      #157

      Disclaimer: I'm not a software engineer or anything, and while I can usually figure out how to install something from git, that's as far as my understanding of the platform goes..

      Was it an unnecessary edit? Sure, maybe. Hell, could have just been someone trying to get a reaction (mission accomplished). That does not mean that the edit was incorrect in any way (gramatically, syntax-wise, etc.) or political. It's just someone being annoying.

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      • rickdg@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

        Don’t think we should be scared of the word “political” or “ideology”.

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        #158

        Yeah, that too... Everything is political if you want to really get into it. People just want to be able to ignore it until it directly affects them.

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          The main issue I have right now: the jurisdiction of this is in the US, and to be honest, I don’t trust the US that much when it comes to privacy laws regarding the (near) future.

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          #159

          the EU wants backdoors to encryptions, so eu not any better.

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          • L [email protected]

            I’m with you. I install Legcord now so that I don’t have to install that shitty application on my actual computer. I highly recommend it for those communities that refuse to use anything else!

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            #160

            I use it in a browser tab because I refuse to have them snoop around on my running processes.

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            • M [email protected]

              The documentation has long since been changed.

              Note that the anon user is able to become root without a password by default, as a development convenience. To prevent this, remove anon from the wheel group and it will no longer be able to run /bin/su.

              https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/commit/a2a6bc534868773b9320ec3ca7399283cf7a375b (this seems to have also switched to gender neutral language in other parts.'of the documentation and comments as well).

              Original drama: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814

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              #161

              Ok, fair enough then. Could have been a simple misunderstanding.

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                the EU wants backdoors to encryptions, so eu not any better.

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                #162

                It certainly is the lesser evil though.

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                • N [email protected]

                  what r they gonna do if it's open source and doesn't collect data.
                  worry more about ur OS

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                  #163

                  I’m not naive enough anymore for this kind of trust.

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                  • S [email protected]

                    Existence? Because somebody used a wrong pronoun?

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                    #164

                    They refused to use the right pronoun. One is a mistake. The other is a choice.

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                      #165

                      Once Servo is finished, we might have a browser rennaisance (I hope)

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                      • mitm0@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                        Once Servo is finished, we might have a browser rennaisance (I hope)

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                        #166

                        That would be nice. I know lately I've been playing around with gopher sites with command line browsers. It's been fun seeing what others have made.

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                        • L [email protected]

                          Ladybird says 2026. Given the current state and progress, I believe it may be quite usable by then. I use it sometimes for basic surfing and leaving forum comments. It works surprisingly well often though it is still far from general use. I think the dev team tries to use it themselves for things like Discord and GutHub. They did a demo last month where it “almost” ran Gmail.

                          I am not sure that Servo has set a timeline. I expect it to take longer.

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                          #167

                          If you don't mind my asking, what forums do you use? I'm trying to find new communities.

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                          • E [email protected]

                            Transphobic main dev ruined the project for me

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                            #168

                            Here we fucking go again.

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                            • E [email protected]

                              They refused to use the right pronoun. One is a mistake. The other is a choice.

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                              They refused to accept a PR from a random person with just one single word change for a string that only the developer himself is seeing.

                              I think the developer has all the rights not to accept such a PR which adds nothing to the program. And I think people that really care about gender inclusivity should stop focusing on this useless nitpicks, which makes inclusivity appear like made up by a bunch of trolls.

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                              • B [email protected]

                                How does one have a donation = no influence policy?

                                Huge companies donate to make open apps like this reliant on them. Then they threaten to pull the donation if that doesn't happen...

                                Strong Copyleft licenses protect from this by allowing others to fork and keep an app going without being taken advantage of.

                                If Google donates 1 billion dollars tomorrow, and over several months, Ladybird will expand to use that money.
                                Then Google can threaten to stop the donations unless LB does something like "make ad blockers worse"

                                It's a web browser. The only money they will make is from donations. Unless they do something wonky with their business model, like charge. Then no one will use it anyway.

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                                #170

                                Frankly at this point I'd be willing to contribute to a strongly copyleft, privacy focused browser even if it meant yet another fucking 'subscription'

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                                • E [email protected]

                                  Calling pronouns political is a straight up dog whistle

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                                  #171

                                  there may also be the possibility of the dev simply not wanting to define his views publicly out of the blue, because regardless of stance, you will make enemies, potentially hindering the projects development or facing personal repercussions.

                                  It should be allowed for someone to not out themselves as either transphobic or an ally. If the person does have issues with pronouns, it's better if they simply keep to themselves instead of loudly proclaiming it. The other way around it's the same - even if someone is pro trans, it might not be suitable for them to openly speak about it - it might even put them in danger.

                                  I agree with you that this is often a dog whistle, but it might also be a poor choice of wording.

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                                    Just installed it on void. Still not quite usable for daily use but it's not bad.

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                                    • N [email protected]

                                      what r they gonna do if it's open source and doesn't collect data.
                                      worry more about ur OS

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                                      #173

                                      Ask Mozilla

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                                      • T [email protected]

                                        To go along with the alt right stuff, one of their major donors is Shopify.

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                                        So what?

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                                        • N [email protected]

                                          what r they gonna do if it's open source and doesn't collect data.
                                          worry more about ur OS

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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          I'm pretty sure my Debian doesn't collect personal data either

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