Proton's very biased article on Deepseek

[lemmus@szmer.info]

Oh so you are more like "If I kill a man and run away to Russia, that means Russia is the good guy here, because I won't take any consequences", I think this topic is pretty undefined here, like many people may have different opinion on that, wheter a company should cooperate with government. But the thing is Deepseek has to coop, they have no option, and Deepseek is on the enemy side for us - west, thats why giving them data is like giving them money, data is money, you want China to get bigger, or your country? If you localhost, yeah it is far more better than any ClosedAI, but people don't do that, therefore you should be against using deepseek app and website if you care about interesr of your country.

[yerbouti@sh.itjust.works]

I run one a of the smaller model on an M1 max and it's working pretty good. Much better than I would jave thought. Some guys on youtube manage to get the 600b parameters models to run on sub 5k hardware. It's a total game changer. In a couple of years it will probably run loccaly on phones.

[artificialfish@programming.dev]

Wait. Protons CEO is conservative?

[tempest@lemmy.ca]

He's been kissing the ring on social media like the others IIRC

[oktoberpaard@lemm.ee]

A quote from the article:

DeepSeek is open source, meaning you can modify code(new window) on your own app to create an independent — and more secure — version. This has led some to hope that a more privacy-friendly version of DeepSeek could be developed.

This is just plain wrong. The model doesn’t contain the privacy unfriendly logic and can be used freely and unmodified. In fact, there are plenty of other platforms available right now where you can use it that are not Chinese.

This article makes fair points, if you ignore the fact that they don’t know what they’re talking about. You need to fix the errors in your head while reading it for it to make sense. If you don’t have the knowledge to do that, the whole article is a bit misleading.

[auli@lemmy.ca]

I've found AI quicker at getting information. Search on the net is garbage find old articles that no longer are relavent or having to shift through pages of unrelated shit till you find what you want.

[auli@lemmy.ca]

Oh it works and works well sure might need some tweaking or prompt changing but it is decent at code gen.

[unsavorymollusk@lemmy.world]

Ho yeah but they are definitely not ignoring that in the article. It's just that they are talking mostly about the subject of the article which is: deepseek

[red@sopuli.xyz]

It's been noted that the apps by the company do send each and every keystroke back to china, though.

Who's to say how poisoned the data in reality is.

[unsavorymollusk@lemmy.world]

I will let you decide :
https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/

[artificialfish@programming.dev]

Damn I switched to proton last year and am NOT migrating again.

I thought it was based in the EU. Why does he care about the US at all?

[thedonkerz@lemmy.ca]

The problem with any kind of journalism like this though is that it talks about the topic of the article, sure, but it doesn't acknowledge the other relevant parties that have most of all the same concerns.

It's a matter of framing for the situation. I'd rather read something that talks about both sides instead of just one.