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EA has open sourced Command & Conquer: Red Alert under GPLv3

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  • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

    I'm not well versed in C&C, but it's always good to see more games open sourced.

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    Is Tiberian Sun included!!!??

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    • ninmi@sopuli.xyzN [email protected]

      I'm assuming this is more about art assets. Art is not code and you shouldn't expect them for free. It's not a catch.

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      Which, in the immediate future, makes me wonder less about the things that are going to be done in code, and more about the creation of a new, free, visual and audio resources that make this work. That seems like quite a noble pursuit.

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      • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

        Sorry, that was the wrong link.

        https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/39394/Command__Conquer_The_Ultimate_Collection/

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        If you dig some experienced players comments who bought the "remastered" stuff, they are complaining that they "re-mastered" the exact same bugs that seriously annoyed the players too. They didn't fix the bugs.
        With the power of OSS, every bug can be fixed.

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        • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

          I'm not well versed in C&C, but it's always good to see more games open sourced.

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          Broken clock

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          • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

            Extremely rare EA win

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            Are they trying to become the not most hated studio? The bar is pretty low these days...

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              Can you say why? The opensource project is already insanely good.

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              To make the opensource project even better! 😛

              The compiler has optimized the rendering engine too much to be decompiled into any useable code. Somebody is working on Linux and 64bit support which will need to have this completely rewritten. https://github.com/dkfans/keeperfx/blob/master/src/bflib_render_gpoly.c

              The maintainer of KeeperFX told me that EA does not have the original code anymore though.

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                Is Tiberian Sun included!!!??

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                Yes it is

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                  Is Tiberian Sun included!!!??

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                  I heard so, yes.

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                    If you dig some experienced players comments who bought the "remastered" stuff, they are complaining that they "re-mastered" the exact same bugs that seriously annoyed the players too. They didn't fix the bugs.
                    With the power of OSS, every bug can be fixed.

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                    https://www.openra.net/

                    Open Red Alert

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                    • A [email protected]

                      This is a momentous event. I only wish it had Red Alert 2 in it.

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                      If it doesn't then I'm not interested.

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                        Is Tiberian Sun included!!!??

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                        Yes, if you click the link, it takes you to the EA github amd you can see folders for all included games

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                          Is Tiberian Sun included!!!??

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                          No. The repo has Tiberian Dawn, Red Alert 1, Generals with Zero Hour, Renegade, and components for the HD ports of TD and RA1 they put out a few years ago.

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                          • W [email protected]

                            It sounds like that's what happened, but through the proper channels. They hired a known CnC community/modding site admin as the dev.

                            I'd imagine he pitched that this was an easy way to reduce maintenance costs while fostering massive good will and making the amount of long tail sales over time higher.

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                            That's actually kind of a brilliant concept that should serve as an example for other video game publishers then: open-source the program so that it can be maintained by the community, but require a license to use the artwork. The community could eventually recreate and even improve the artwork anyway.

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                            • F [email protected]

                              Short version: You can make free stuff for them but they still own all of it and still require people to purchase a copy to use the derivatives.

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                              You can make complete conversions with your own assets. That's basically how old id engines work.

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                              • K [email protected]

                                Are they trying to become the not most hated studio? The bar is pretty low these days...

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                                I feel like at some point, EA became the least hated major studio by staying exactly where they were. The rest of the industry zoomed past them.

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                                • ninmi@sopuli.xyzN [email protected]

                                  I'm assuming this is more about art assets. Art is not code and you shouldn't expect them for free. It's not a catch.

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                                  Correct. The license (at least, the one I read for Red Alert) is GPLv3 with some additional stuff. The additional stuff is mostly about not using EA trademarks in your version or showing any connection to EA itself. So it appears that a clean room asset swap would be allowed as long as it includes the title screen.

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                                  • C [email protected]

                                    Intellectual property is what allows them to make these games GPL.

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                                    The GPL is a way to make intellectual property work the way it should by default.

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                                    • F [email protected]

                                      I feel like at some point, EA became the least hated major studio by staying exactly where they were. The rest of the industry zoomed past them.

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                                      Nah, you're going way too far. Least hated studio? What about CD Projekt Red? Larian? Fromsoft? Who hates Warhorse more than EA?

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                                        I hope everyone's SSDs have enough SPACE

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                                        When I first played Red Alert, it was on a computer with a 6.4GB hard drive, and I had no idea how to fill up that much space at the time. I think we'll be fine.

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                                          It’s a kick ass game but some of the tropes didn’t age well.

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                                          The whole premise is "America: Fuck Yeah, The RTS".

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