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Where is "slapping management insistent on AI?"
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Ah man, my boss wants to get our department Meta glasses for taking pictures of parts we make, we literally get a bonus on our pay cheques for us having our phones on us an be reachable.
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I actually like Jira. I have my own workflow where I fetch my tickets via Emacs to Orgmode and then work from there. Integration is read-only but that is what I need 99% of the time.
Jira is so much better than the new programs introduced in the last few months. Almost everything could be done on a Jira ticket before. Now I need to go to Jizz for a work order, Bellow for an off the shelf inventory addition, GroupCenter for releasing a drawing, and SimpSupport for IT help. It's like an MBA in upper management pushed these additions and then fucked off as soon as they started implementing them before it blew up in their faces. Off to search for the next company's productivity flow to ruin.
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and it does so for abso-fucking-lutely no good reason!
Vendor lock-in. The next generation will demand teams because they cannot get used to other shortcuts.
i mean...that certainly is an explanation, but it's a shit strategy:
there are a lot of objectively false names for emojis, you can't expect people to get used to that...
"eyeroll" for example is called "bored"...which makes absolutely no sense. (at least in german, maybe it's less bad in english)
I don't see that ever leading to vendor lock-in, just perpetual frustration...
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Having used quite a few others: hard disagree
Several companies I've worked at had bespoke internal systems that were less general but extremely efficient to use.
It kills me to think some bean counters probably gutted them and gave the money to Atlassian
Hell, my employer used to just have us turn in Excel-based at the end of each week. They were super easy and fast to fill out. After the switch to Jira it takes 3x longer.
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I were unfortunate enough to get an assignment about sending messages to ServiceNow through a REST interface. The company had a team that managed ServiceNow, so I set up a meeting with one of the people there to get read access to the test environment so I could confirm that it worked. The person invited, then invited a coworker who in turn invited the manager of their department. During the meeting we got established how little they wanted my team to do anything that could affect the system due to how easy it was to make mistakes that took weeks or months to fix, how complicated it was and how many years it took to be proficient in. The whole thing was basically a lecture on how unequiped our team was to manage their system and how they didn’t want us to break it with changes we weren’t planning on making anyway. It took a few meetings after that to get credentials and when I got them I got admin access for some reason.
That experience left me wondering why ServiceNow was even being used as it sounded like a liability more than anything else.Yeah that sounds about right, the ServiceNow config at my work also feels like a house of cards, I also feel like I lose at least an hour of work anytime I have to interact with the damn thing
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Jira is the worst project manager software, except for all the others - Churchill
I don't mind Jira that much.
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Bit unpopular, but I actually prefer servicenows ticketing system over Jira. Although a big part of that comes down to how my team worked for a while
For a while I had to use Jira for any cloud work and ServiceNow for any dev work on that platform. Keeping track of 2 different boards is maddening
Yeah what’s worse than 1 task list to manage? 2 task lists in different platforms
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What's a good alternative to Jira?
I liked YouTrack. Only used it as a dev, not a manager or tech support though. But from what I saw, everyone seemed at least OK with it and some people were downright happy to use it.
It's free for up to 10 users and available as a docker image, in case you want to try it out before committing, or pitching it to higher-ups. Cloud version is available too of course.
They are raising prices in October though. Not sure how it'll compare to Jira or how it does now, I've never had to pay for either myself.
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What's a good alternative to Jira?
Requestracker
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next time my job asks me to install teams on my phone, I'm gonna hand them a list of rental costs for access to my phone/internet and to cover any security related issues.
Why are you using your own phone for work?
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Jira is the worst project manager software, except for all the others - Churchill
I would take literally anything above Service Now.
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No consultancy can ever make Jira fast. It’s incredible that it takes several seconds just to open a motherfucking goddamn issue.
I swear all their SQL is
select * from *;Sometimes you'll search for a ticket and it straight up just doesn't find it. Then you search for it again and wow, now it's suddenly appeared.
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My company stopped allowing OTP and required Microsoft Authenticator on personal phones. I was one of the few to refuse, eventually they gave me a Fido key. While I also use a less Google version of Android, I didn't talk about that when it was happened, just the principal that this is my phone, not the companies.
One of my previous jobs required we updated our personal phones and ticked a box in a document every month so that the company chat app was "on a secure environment/device".
I normally keep my phone up to date, but my employer shouldn't be telling me what to do with my private phone. I removed the company chat app since I didn't want to comply with them controlling my personal devices.
After that they couldn't reach me after hours. Great. After about 6 months they allowed me to use the chat app on my private phone again without insight or control over it. It may sound petty, but I think it's an important distinction.
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After being forced to use Azure DevOps instead of JIRA... I wish I had JIRA back...
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GitHub tickets are fine.
Jira is complicated because PMs want it to do everything. It can, but there's no good reason for it.
Yeah, jira is too customizable. I mean I wouldn’t give any of it up, but the one time someone let me have the reins, I mostly simplified. Removed workflows, removed customizations.
There needs to be better ways of defining standard projects and sticking to them. Currently everyone wants their little tweak and you can’t even pick out what’s consistent and what’s not until you run into problems
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Definitely not gonna defend Microsoft's naming here.
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Definitely not gonna defend Microsoft's naming, let alone their versioning!
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After being forced to use Azure DevOps instead of JIRA... I wish I had JIRA back...
I don't care what M$ says, Azure DevOps is being left for dead. As someone who worked on the System Center space for years, I know the signs of a product they want to kill but can't. I'm convinced the only reason it is still around is because some internal teams haven't moved to GitHub yet.
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I would take literally anything above Service Now.
Hahahaha my org is trying to force service now down out throats, ugh make it stop, I'm dying
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I would take literally anything above Service Now.
What a steaming pile of goat shit that is. Glad I don't have to work with that anymore. Excuse me while I load up SAP.
