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‘If I switch it off, my girlfriend might think I’m cheating’: inside the rise of couples location sharing

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    I imagine this form of abuse is done by sociopaths that convinced their traumatised partners this is actually a good thing.

    All the people in this thread that they do it for years and it's normal? Sociopaths.

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    My wife has done courses on warning signs for abusive relationships as part of some mental health first aid certification stuff.

    2 biiiiiig red flags are insisting on surveillance and not letting people have separate finances. We have a combined account sure, and also pocket money accounts and whatever else. For all I know she's set up a trust. I mean I don't think she has because she'd probably tell me but she has the freedom to do so.

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      How old are you guys, if you don't mind me asking? It seems that generally younger people don't see this as an innate violation of privacy, where older people feel quite surveilled and even like they're being viewed as untrustworthy for someone to ask this of them.

      I've never cheated on my spouse (not even close), I've never felt any inclination to lie about my whereabouts. I can see the safety aspect of this, logically. I would feel offended if my spouse asked me to be a dot on his phone, as if he was asking to own me. We share a home, a child, a bank account, a car, but we don't share location. I don't even keep my location activated for my own use unless I'm actively navigating somewhere new.

      We've got plenty of "normal" problems, but none of them lead me to want his location. I simply trust him enough. It feels to me like if you need your partners location on tap, you must first have other problems

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      I don't mind my girlfriend knowing where I am because I'm not cheating on her. The only time it gets a bit weird is if me and my mates are doing something a bit stupid, one time we went to one of those trampoline centres at like 10:00 p.m. because they were having an adult night. We pushed to get massively over excited about trampolines and I ended up getting questioned about it in the morning. But hey she definitely knew I wasn't cheating on her there she just thought I was being weird

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      • M [email protected]

        You realize you are also sharing your location with third parties or you havent figured that out yet? lmao

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        If you own a smart phone, so are you.

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          If you own a smart phone, so are you.

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          The thread is literally talking about options that enable extra surveillance on your smart phones lmao

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          • L [email protected]

            To me it's weird that people have issues with this. My wife and I, married 35 years, share each other's locations because if something bad happened we would want to be able to find each other. I don't even give a second thought to, "...and I can make sure she isn't cheating on me."

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            Honestly, with the current political situation in my country, this might be a good idea.

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              today the guardian almost wrote something about a real concern that totally happened with sane people

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                When we need to know each others location, we share it via element / matrix. Our own server, so no third party.

                Happens maybe four times a year.

                (Also, do you just always have location services enabled?? IMO it's a battery drain, I pretty much only enable it for this and while I need to navigate)

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                Nobody to answer to (and share my location).
                Despite being somewhat aware of the privacy concerns of having location services always enabled, the potential of having access to finding my phone based on the service to find it (Apples and Googles feature) is more important (to me).
                Same reason I have cellular always enabled.

                Main reason I keep location services enabled is for geo-tagged photos.
                At first I always kept it disabled because of privacy trust issues (e.g. sharing a picture might not always strip the geotags) but since going on a vacation in sri lanka and being able to trace back a picture to a location it became a very useful feature.

                Example from my vacation in Sri Lanka:

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                • obi@sopuli.xyzO [email protected]

                  That's the gist of the success of my marriage. Even before we met, we both had reached a point of maturity where we were confident in ourselves as single people, and then from that solid base you can build the relationship in a healthy way. We both try to be the best to our partner, while being ultimately independent. These over-jealous people are using their relationship as a crutch for life so they're terrified of it going wrong. Either that or they're guilty themselves and projecting.

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                  So essentially very good friends that chose to live together + benefits of being in a deeper relationship?

                  Sounds healthy indeed! Wish you the best to keep that bond 🙂

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                    (And hoping the location sharing doesnt leak to other applications).

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                    • J [email protected]

                      they still have it... if your using an android phone at least... and your cell provider...

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                      Same for any other phone manufacturer. I won't trust Apple any more than I do with Google.

                      The only ones I'd actually trust to keep it somewhat private and probably LineageOS and GrapheneOS (no experience with gOS)

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                      • moseschrute@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                        Me and my partner share locations. Never once have we done this. It's purely a logistical thing. 10x faster to check someone's location when you're supposed to meet them instead of testing them "wya".

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                        Same. I don’t even recall setting it up until I stumbled on it one day and could track my wife. I pulled a few pranks until I revealed my hand but we’ve never turned it off. There’s nothing malicious about it and we’re both happy to keep it on.

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                        • B [email protected]

                          The peace of mind knowing that your significant other didn't just die in a car crash part way to their destination and are still making progress is significant.

                          Bless you but the moment I start being afraid of my partner dying everytime they leave the house will be the moment I'm getting back in touch with my psychologist.

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                          You're kind of putting words in my mouth here.

                          I didn't say that I'm afraid of him dying every time they leave the house, you said that.

                          I'm afraid of them dying when they're traveling 20 hours. Or over a mountain pass. Or various other reasons. They travel a lot and I get worried that's just how it is.

                          When calculating travel costs, I also dug up some statistics and figured what the chance of crashing, injury and death were based on how much driving we do on an annual basis based on national averages.

                          I actually thought knowing that would make me less stressed about all the travel but it didn't help because the numbers are kind of depressing.

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                          • appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                            So essentially very good friends that chose to live together + benefits of being in a deeper relationship?

                            Sounds healthy indeed! Wish you the best to keep that bond 🙂

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                            We were a couple right away so no existing friendship beforehand but within the relationship, that's kinda how it works yeah!

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                            • M [email protected]

                              Why would you want to give third parties access to your locations?

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                              Are you saying Apple doesn’t have access to my location already? Like I’m some kind of secret agent?

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                                You realize you are also sharing your location with third parties or you havent figured that out yet? lmao

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                                Yes, Apple already has my location. Using the location finder in iOS does not share data with advertisers. Also, I spend 99% of my time at my house. Wtf kind of secret shit do you think I’m up to?

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                                • naevatherat@lemmy.dbzer0.comN [email protected]

                                  Yes we're teenagers. We've been married 15 years, ceremony was when we were three.

                                  Privacy is important, have you never kept a diary? Do you film therapy sessions lest your partner not know what you discussed? Shit with the door open? You don't need justification for wanting privacy, you need privacy so when you have a good reason for it nothing looks different.

                                  What if there’s an emergency?

                                  What if there is? Get help, that's an insane fear to live with. If I am unconscious there's nothing to do anyway, the hospital or whatever will find her details in my purse and call. What the fuck am I going to do, sit there watching the dot on the map and calling 000 if it stops moving? You are a lunatic, we have society to take care of us while we're out and about and emergency beacons if you're like camping beyond the black stump or sailing the Pacific.

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                                  No, I’m not worried about my wife reading “my diary” because I’m not a child.

                                  It honestly sounds like you need to work on your marriage and are projecting. Maybe try a couple’s therapist?

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                                    So you have suggestions?

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                                    It's not something I've used very much as I don't have much need for it, but I have used Locus a few times and I'm pretty comfortable with their privacy policy compared to the vast majority of other options.

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                                      No, I’m not worried about my wife reading “my diary” because I’m not a child.

                                      It honestly sounds like you need to work on your marriage and are projecting. Maybe try a couple’s therapist?

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                                      Very hinged lemmy comment.

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                                        if you believe the only reason your partner isn't cheating is that you'd find out via location share; what the fuck is the point?

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                                          So we have two camps.

                                          1. It's a tool to be used and it's a good thing to exists and I have it enabled forever

                                          2. Keep a gun pointed at it at all occasions and even if you use it, do so with heavy restrictions

                                          I trust my partner and my partner trusts me but the idea of stalking her via app is mindboggling and, honestly, disgusting to me. Like a dog on a leash, always observed, always controlled. That's some mind disease shit going on. Trust your partner dammit. Ya all have issues.

                                          On the other hand though being violently agaisnt it cuz "oh my god privacy" is also funny. The recipent is your partner. Setting it up for some specific use case shouldn't be a bother. It can be extremely usefull for example for grabbing shit in a mall - if you are not interested in going to the same shop, enable it, split, get what you need, join back, disable it.

                                          What I am getting at is - it's a tool, but an invasive and overly controlling one. Use it how you wish but do not perceive having it on constantly as normal. It literally sounds disgusting.

                                          Edit: For people talking about privacy - we're on lemmy. We all know how tracking works. An even if you have localisation off, your device will connect to local wifi and smart appliances to log your location anyway. So I am not really invested into discusing overall practice of having location on - only on sharing saud location.

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