Proton CEO Andy Yen Interview

[blametheantifa@lemmy.world]

I didn’t realize that. What’re the best Proton alternatives?

[tramort@programming.dev]

This guy is a fascist, and nobody should be using proton.

[cris_color@lemmy.world]

Personally I've been using Tutanota and bitwarden happily. I guess it kinda depends on what you're looking for alternatives to, I don't know if anyone else offers as comprehensive of a complete suite of stuff

[simple@lemm.ee]

Making a dumb tweet doesn't make you a fascist and doesn't invalidate the years of hard work people put into a non-profit swiss company, you should get over yourself.

[tramort@programming.dev]

No indeed.

But supporting an administration (in any medium) whose inauguration included a Nazi salute does, in fact, make you a fascist.

And no: it doesn't matter if you previously did something good.

It's really not that complicated,

[idkwhatusernametoputherelolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Tbf, the nazi salute happened after he did that tweet

[horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world]

Proton has a business model where they want the user to put their eggs all in one basket. If you want that kind of userbase you need to leave your personal politics out of it. The problem isn't that the CEO is right wing. It's that he is very publicly right wing. Supports a known huckster. And lastly could be vying for a role in the administration. All of this calls into question just for how long Proton will be secure before they are selling user info to the state.

Politics are very fucking important in terms of security when you're a whistleblower or dissident.

[tramort@programming.dev]

Fair point. But no adult who is paying attention needed the salute to understand the contempt that Musk has for the rule of law.

He marshalled an attack on the capital. No non-fascist does that.

[tootguitar@sh.itjust.works]

Quit letting politics ruin our collective ability to drive by suggesting to people that Volkswagen is now an evil company. They support Hitler because they think his business policies will benefit their company. True or false as that may be their company is still great at making cars and we shouldn't be infighting about that.

[shortn0te@lemmy.ml]

The tweet he commented on was indeed a nice idea, but a CEO should have more foresight that the things Trump stated in it would not be true.
When you look at it now, it looks like it was more or less a threat that led to a closer relationship between "tech bros" and the current administration instead of the "take down" of them.

[limonene@lemmy.world]

Trump isn't the politician I most loathe. He's just the only politician that I've ever feared might kill or imprison me purely for who I am.

[transitinoir@slrpnk.net]

He marshalled an attack on the capital. No non-fascist does that.

uh, you sure about that?

[0x0@programming.dev]

+1 for tuta and bitwarden.

[ferk@lemmy.ml]

I think the "he" there was @[email protected], not the CEO of Proton.

[tramort@programming.dev]

Yes. We all saw it on national television.

Then he pardoned the offenders.

GTFO with your stupid pretend skepticism and gas lighting.

[bldck@beehaw.org]

I’m reminded of this Nate Silver quote from the election:

Democrats, however — and here, I’m not referring so much Silver Bulletin subscribers but in the broader universe online — often get angry with you when you only halfway agree with them. And I really think this difference in personality profiles tells you a little something about why Trump won: Trump was happy to take on all comers, whereas with Democrats, disagreement on any hot-button topic (say, COVID school closures or Biden’s age) will have you cast out as a heretic. That’s not a good way to build a majority, and now Democrats no longer have one.

[transitinoir@slrpnk.net]

The question was whether you are sure that only fascists marsh on capitals

[tramort@programming.dev]

Martin Luther King marched on the capital.

But if you think I'm using a definition that makes Martin Luther King a fascist then I'm going to conclude you're not discussing the issue in good faith.

[rogue@feddit.uk]

Praising the pick wasn't so bad. The issues really arose when he was called out on it and chose to use Proton's official accounts to affirm his view and went on to state:

• the republican party is now the party of the people and most likely to crack down on big tech
• The democrats have effectively betrayed their voters in favour of corporate donations
• This was Proton's official stance

It was insane boot licking and incredibly poorly thought through. It's fine for him to have an opinion but completely inappropriate to use their official accounts to spew such drivel and to state it was the official stance should have resulted in him being fired for damaging their reputation.

[zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml]

Ah, well that's not so good then . . .