Proton CEO Andy Yen Interview
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cris_color@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 26 days ago last edited by
Personally I've been using Tutanota and bitwarden happily. I guess it kinda depends on what you're looking for alternatives to, I don't know if anyone else offers as comprehensive of a complete suite of stuff
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simple@lemm.eereplied to Guest 26 days ago last edited by
Making a dumb tweet doesn't make you a fascist and doesn't invalidate the years of hard work people put into a non-profit swiss company, you should get over yourself.
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tramort@programming.devreplied to Guest 26 days ago last edited by
No indeed.
But supporting an administration (in any medium) whose inauguration included a Nazi salute does, in fact, make you a fascist.
And no: it doesn't matter if you previously did something good.
It's really not that complicated,
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idkwhatusernametoputherelolol@lemmy.dbzer0.comreplied to Guest 26 days ago last edited by
Tbf, the nazi salute happened after he did that tweet
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horse_battery_staple@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 26 days ago last edited by
Proton has a business model where they want the user to put their eggs all in one basket. If you want that kind of userbase you need to leave your personal politics out of it. The problem isn't that the CEO is right wing. It's that he is very publicly right wing. Supports a known huckster. And lastly could be vying for a role in the administration. All of this calls into question just for how long Proton will be secure before they are selling user info to the state.
Politics are very fucking important in terms of security when you're a whistleblower or dissident.
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tramort@programming.devreplied to Guest 26 days ago last edited by
Fair point. But no adult who is paying attention needed the salute to understand the contempt that Musk has for the rule of law.
He marshalled an attack on the capital. No non-fascist does that.
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tootguitar@sh.itjust.worksreplied to Guest 25 days ago last edited by
Quit letting politics ruin our collective ability to drive by suggesting to people that Volkswagen is now an evil company. They support Hitler because they think his business policies will benefit their company. True or false as that may be their company is still great at making cars and we shouldn't be infighting about that.
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shortn0te@lemmy.mlreplied to Guest 25 days ago last edited by
The tweet he commented on was indeed a nice idea, but a CEO should have more foresight that the things Trump stated in it would not be true.
When you look at it now, it looks like it was more or less a threat that led to a closer relationship between "tech bros" and the current administration instead of the "take down" of them. -
limonene@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 25 days ago last edited by
Trump isn't the politician I most loathe. He's just the only politician that I've ever feared might kill or imprison me purely for who I am.
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transitinoir@slrpnk.netreplied to Guest 25 days ago last edited by
He marshalled an attack on the capital. No non-fascist does that.
uh, you sure about that?
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0x0@programming.devreplied to Guest 25 days ago last edited by
+1 for tuta and bitwarden.
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I think the "he" there was @anonymous@lemm.ee, not the CEO of Proton.
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tramort@programming.devreplied to Guest 25 days ago last edited by
Yes. We all saw it on national television.
Then he pardoned the offenders.
GTFO with your stupid pretend skepticism and gas lighting.
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bldck@beehaw.orgreplied to Guest 25 days ago last edited by
I’m reminded of this Nate Silver quote from the election:
Democrats, however — and here, I’m not referring so much Silver Bulletin subscribers but in the broader universe online — often get angry with you when you only halfway agree with them. And I really think this difference in personality profiles tells you a little something about why Trump won: Trump was happy to take on all comers, whereas with Democrats, disagreement on any hot-button topic (say, COVID school closures or Biden’s age) will have you cast out as a heretic. That’s not a good way to build a majority, and now Democrats no longer have one.
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transitinoir@slrpnk.netreplied to Guest 25 days ago last edited by
The question was whether you are sure that only fascists marsh on capitals
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tramort@programming.devreplied to Guest 25 days ago last edited by
Martin Luther King marched on the capital.
But if you think I'm using a definition that makes Martin Luther King a fascist then I'm going to conclude you're not discussing the issue in good faith.
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rogue@feddit.ukreplied to Guest 25 days ago last edited by
Praising the pick wasn't so bad. The issues really arose when he was called out on it and chose to use Proton's official accounts to affirm his view and went on to state:
- the republican party is now the party of the people and most likely to crack down on big tech
- The democrats have effectively betrayed their voters in favour of corporate donations
- This was Proton's official stance
It was insane boot licking and incredibly poorly thought through. It's fine for him to have an opinion but completely inappropriate to use their official accounts to spew such drivel and to state it was the official stance should have resulted in him being fired for damaging their reputation.
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zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.mlreplied to Guest 25 days ago last edited by
Ah, well that's not so good then . . .
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0x520@slrpnk.netreplied to Guest 25 days ago last edited by
Not defending democrats at all, but didn't Nate Silvers polling engine consistently favor democrats polls? I would say Democrats are loosing because they have created an echo-chamber (of which Nate is a part), in which alternatives are not allowed even if those alternatives are; we shouldn't do a genocide in gaza or hey, actually the most accurate polls have consistently showed Harris losing. If they could actually listen to what their constituents want for once, maybe they could have a majority, but also if Nate Silver could stop inflating their polling they could get a realistic idea of how they are doing with their strategy of telling the proles how they should feel about the perfect, infallible Biden econony and potebtially readjust that strategy or run more popular candidates.
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0x520@slrpnk.netreplied to Guest 25 days ago last edited by
I think everybody is focusing too much on the word betrayal and not enough on the being a syccophant to a would be fascist. If you don't think thats a problem because, "business," that makes you also a fascism enabler. Just because they are good at the privacy part, doesn't mean a company that cow tows to fascism can ever be seen as safe for antifascists. Currently there is a good alternative; tuta. So why contribute to a company like this. There is massive potential to betray users if they are ideologically opposed to things that proton is coming to represent. If there is the option to divert resources away from projects that express fascist sympathies, its probably wise to do so.
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