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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.

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    One protest away from being banned from using currency, from purchasing or even getting paid. Why invest in military police when you can just mass ostracise dissenters with one click

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    Exactly. That level of control scares me.

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      Oh no, anyway.

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      • robocall@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

        If you can't buy these games on Steam anymore, where can you buy them?

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        Piratebay.

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          This has been a thing for at least ten years now. Credit card and money processor companies have policied content for ages. That's why it's hard in some ways to pay for porn. They fucking strong arm and moralize. To be fair I only have like one game on steam that's smut but since it was snow days I'm betting it will be removed.

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          You know what? I'm going to buy some yaoi on steam out of spite. Spite yaoi.

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          • Q [email protected]

            My VPN, VPS, phone bill, bunch of games and license keys, steam points, sms verification services all directly for crypto. I also buy gift cards to grocery stores, takeout delivery apps and the local equivalent of Amazon all for crypto and use them to do most of my shopping. Other things I used it for is donating to foss projects I use and some just for fun penny gambling/predictions. Once I even got paid in crypto for some freelance work I did. If you count the gift cards most of my spending is done in crypto, usually monero.

            Have a look at monerica.com and xmrbazaar.com if you're looking for places to spend your crypto.

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            "Gambling/predictions" I bet most of your crypto goes there, eh? And no, I'm not clicking a link that says "money america" or "bazaar"

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              "Gambling/predictions" I bet most of your crypto goes there, eh? And no, I'm not clicking a link that says "money america" or "bazaar"

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              "Gambling/predictions" I bet most of your crypto goes there, eh?

              No, I'm not rich enough to be wasting money and don't really enjoy feeling like my heart is going to jump out of my chest, gambling with literal pennies once in a blue moon is more of my style.

              And no, I'm not clicking a link that says "money america" or "bazaar"

              No worries, I'll post some screenshots for you.

              ::: spoiler Screenshots

              :::

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              • G [email protected]

                What actual items or services are you buying with crypto? Trading and buying other crypto doesn't count, neither does selling the crypto

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                If you haven't bought illicit drugs from a darknet market, you're doing crypto and possibly life wrong

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                • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  Lightning Labs launched the Lightning Network in 2018 with the goal of reducing the cost and time required for cryptocurrency transaction. Specifically, the bitcoin blockchain can only process around 7 transactions per second (compared to Visa Inc., which can process around 24,000 transactions per second). Despite initial enthusiasm for the Lightning Network, reports on social media of failed transactions, security vulnerabilities, and over-complication lead to a decline in interest.

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                  I'm not really that familiar with LN, to be honest. It looks like there's almost $500 million in the network available for transactions (source), and according to this report, there were about 6.6 million transactions in August of 2023.

                  Not MasterCard or Visa levels, for sure, but also not a 10 minute wait for a transaction to complete either.

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                    Is national payment processing the solution?... International public payment processing?

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                      Agreed. If it's not illegal then it should be allowed.
                      Not that I approve of this type of content, but corporations should not be selectively enforcing their morals.

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                      I think platforms should freely moderate and that payment processors shouldn't even know the legality

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                      • L [email protected]

                        While the effect of not having as much random porn on steam is kinda nice, the underlying reasons for this are fucking horrifying because it's further proof that some giant american companies (visa, paypal, mastercard) are the global morality police.

                        And it's just random porn subgenres getting removed anyway so it kinda does nothing about the flood of those anyway.

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                        It won't be random - MasterVisa attacks the more 'vile' genres first to establish precedent, then they will start to persecute LGBTQ+ sexuality. The endgame is to define your everyday life, including whom you are allowed to love.

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                          People doesn't put egg salad on their face and say its their gender.

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                          Grow up. You'll have a better time if you learn to live and let live without being bothered by what other people do that doesn't involve you.

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                            Hey if you want to goon and not pay might I suggest F95zone a wonderful porn game forum with a very good search system. I think it's the dot to that's the proper site, but it's hard to think right now because everything hurts for no fucking reason.

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                            • C [email protected]

                              We really also need payment neutrality. I don't like the content that's being removed, but I really don't like that visa gets to decide that websites are allowed to show, sell, and everything else. I don't give half a damn if someone decides to swipe their card at the heroin and machine gun store, visa shouldn't be the one deciding that they can't make that transaction

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                              Fully agreed. On the service-provider side, we have 'safe harbor' laws: A site isn't liable for copyrighted user-generated content as long as they have mechanisms to take down items when notified.

                              Liability-wise: The payment processors should have no fucking insight into what is being sold, only that they handle the transactions. Therefore, they should have no liability, similar to "safe harbor".

                              Reputation-wise: I can almost see a history where Visa, for example, used a statement like "we don't handle transactions for X" as a marketing ploy... but that is way past where we are. There's no chance of reputational damage to a payment processor for the items for which they handled a payment. Combined with the above, if I say I'm giving $20 to Tim, you give $20 to Tim and take it from me. Done. Not your problem.

                              As another commenter stated, the payment processor should be a dumb pipe, and anything illegal being sold should be a liability for the seller or buyer. The idea of a moral judgement of the processor is as stupid as a water pipe to your house cutting off the flow if your shower runs too long.

                              The real problem is the politicians, or lobbyists/influencers, who are sending bribes to each other to gain advantage... but visa doesn't have a problem handling a venmo transaction for 'tuition'.

                              Let me buy horny games until after you block world superpower corruption first. But honestly, don't even do that. Just handle moving the money when someone send it. That's your only job.

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                                16 transactions per second

                                Please, that's nothing. In a mass adoption scenario, the whole thing would either crumble or eat a significant portion of the world's electric production.

                                I won't have an argument about the futility of the whole decentralization endeavor and how it fails to meaningfully address any of the very real concerns that central banking has addressed over the centuries. History has already proven all of you fools.

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                                It's 16 tps right now because that's the current demand, highest tps recorded was 57, not counting L2s which are doing 430 tps right now (stats) and can handle way more, for example the biggest one called base can handle 1400 tps alone and the next major eth upgrade is targeting 100000 tps capability.

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                                  Is national payment processing the solution?... International public payment processing?

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                                  Unironically crypto

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                                  • D [email protected]

                                    Yeah that even applies to some games that aren’t porn games but just feature nudity like the Fear & Hunger series.

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                                    These at least show up when logged in but are there ones that you can't see at all without VPN?

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                                      While the effect of not having as much random porn on steam is kinda nice, the underlying reasons for this are fucking horrifying because it's further proof that some giant american companies (visa, paypal, mastercard) are the global morality police.

                                      And it's just random porn subgenres getting removed anyway so it kinda does nothing about the flood of those anyway.

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                                      While the effect of not having as much random porn on steam is kinda nice, the underlying reasons for this are fucking horrifying because it’s further proof that some giant american companies (visa, paypal, mastercard) are the global morality police.

                                      They have been for decades. You just aren't going to see news stories anywhere major when what's being banned by the morality police is something like loli or zoo content, but stuff no one wants to publicly defend are targeted first to set precedent to justify anything else they might want to ban later.

                                      See the H.L. Mencken quote about defending scoundrels.

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                                        I was gonna get The Adventures of Kincaid,a furry porn game where you can screw several characters and enemies when you defeat them. The player character is female, and the sex is framed as the character patching up defeated enemies.

                                        There is a similar free game called Naughty Rabbit by a Japanese developer called Be Kon Box... but it is kinda rapey until you realize the females can refuse sex if you don't do it right, which makes me wonder if the sexual dynamics of the world involve kicking ass as courtship before screwing. Also he added some dynamics where the female enemies sexually assault the male player character. Its kinda fascinating.

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                                          Unironically crypto

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                                          Agreed. I like to dunk on cryptobros as much as the next guy/gal, but crypto is the first actual solution that comes to mind here

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