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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.

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  • T [email protected]

    As long as the shit is on the internet where kids can find it, i'm gonna have problems with it.

    Do you think Lemmy checks for age?

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    Stop using children as a stand-in for your discomfort. That is so overdone.

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    • B [email protected]

      No, they were created to facilitate pyramid schemes and scams.

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      Cool, I'll keep transacting privately and uncensored with minimal fees, no middle man and predictable inflation with my pyramid scheme and you're free to stick to your surveilled, censored, ever inflating FIAT.

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      • T [email protected]

        I feel it was a good answer to the question posed

        Imagine you can't use visa or mastercard. What other fucking payment card acceptance system are you going to use for payment processing in under 30 seconds?

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        Ok, and you forgot cash. That can be used to process payment too if you think about it.

        Just not an appropriate solution for this context though, is it?

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        • L [email protected]

          Note that from some countries (germany at least) you might need a vpn to access the 18+ parts of DLsite (on that note, both steam and gog have a few porn games delisted if you're in germany, thanks to some "think of the children" people, but JAST sells them anyway if they have it)

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          Yeah that even applies to some games that aren’t porn games but just feature nudity like the Fear & Hunger series.

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          • S [email protected]

            I didn't come here to have that argument. Things as they are, you can search for lolicon in most corporate owned search engines and be told about csam being illegal. It is what it is and I used that as the basis for my argument not your feelings on...what, thought crime?

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            Ohh look i did want to to argue either. I just think it is a bad idea to throw those two together because most people are too ignorant/emotional to make a difference and thats bad.

            And a thought is not a crime imo so whatever fantasy rocks your boat idc.

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            • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

              Ok, and you forgot cash. That can be used to process payment too if you think about it.

              Just not an appropriate solution for this context though, is it?

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              Considering your question was about a "payment card acceptance system" "for payment processing in under 30 seconds", no, cash is not an appropriate answer to your very specific question.

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                Cool, I'll keep transacting privately and uncensored with minimal fees, no middle man and predictable inflation with my pyramid scheme and you're free to stick to your surveilled, censored, ever inflating FIAT.

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                What actual items or services are you buying with crypto? Trading and buying other crypto doesn't count, neither does selling the crypto

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                • R [email protected]

                  yup they did this a LONG time ago with porn sites and DVD sales. I used to work in that industry as a web developer in the early 00s. Third party billers specifically set up for the porn industry thrived because of this.

                  there were many silly rules like you said, no fisting, at most two fingers in the asshole, Incest was "OK" as long as it was "step-" whatever BUT you could get away with it if you laid the ground work initially and say "step-mom" or whatever and then later on just say "mom". Step-Dad was...hit or miss if you could get away with it. Scat was a no go BUT piss was ok IF it was from Europe, sorry US folks, you're not allowed to piss on each other and film it in the good ol United States according to Visa and Mastercard. Finally some stuff like gang bangs or "abuse" porn was fine AS LONG as the girl at the end of the video has a mini interview claiming what a great time she had while covered in jizz. Visa and Mastercard needed to ensure this lady enjoyed herself.

                  fucking really dumb rules and I would have LOVED to be a fly in the room when Visa and Mastercard lawyers came up with these things.

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                  This is gold!! I'd love to read more about it!! It's very fascinating how payment system can control the type of content that is available for consumers

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                  • G [email protected]

                    What actual items or services are you buying with crypto? Trading and buying other crypto doesn't count, neither does selling the crypto

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                    My VPN, VPS, phone bill, bunch of games and license keys, steam points, sms verification services all directly for crypto. I also buy gift cards to grocery stores, takeout delivery apps and the local equivalent of Amazon all for crypto and use them to do most of my shopping. Other things I used it for is donating to foss projects I use and some just for fun penny gambling/predictions. Once I even got paid in crypto for some freelance work I did. If you count the gift cards most of my spending is done in crypto, usually monero.

                    Have a look at monerica.com and xmrbazaar.com if you're looking for places to spend your crypto.

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                    • J [email protected]

                      One protest away from being banned from using currency, from purchasing or even getting paid. Why invest in military police when you can just mass ostracise dissenters with one click

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                      Exactly. That level of control scares me.

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                        Source.

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                        Oh no, anyway.

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                        • robocall@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                          If you can't buy these games on Steam anymore, where can you buy them?

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                          Piratebay.

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                            This has been a thing for at least ten years now. Credit card and money processor companies have policied content for ages. That's why it's hard in some ways to pay for porn. They fucking strong arm and moralize. To be fair I only have like one game on steam that's smut but since it was snow days I'm betting it will be removed.

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                            You know what? I'm going to buy some yaoi on steam out of spite. Spite yaoi.

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                              My VPN, VPS, phone bill, bunch of games and license keys, steam points, sms verification services all directly for crypto. I also buy gift cards to grocery stores, takeout delivery apps and the local equivalent of Amazon all for crypto and use them to do most of my shopping. Other things I used it for is donating to foss projects I use and some just for fun penny gambling/predictions. Once I even got paid in crypto for some freelance work I did. If you count the gift cards most of my spending is done in crypto, usually monero.

                              Have a look at monerica.com and xmrbazaar.com if you're looking for places to spend your crypto.

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                              "Gambling/predictions" I bet most of your crypto goes there, eh? And no, I'm not clicking a link that says "money america" or "bazaar"

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                              • G [email protected]

                                "Gambling/predictions" I bet most of your crypto goes there, eh? And no, I'm not clicking a link that says "money america" or "bazaar"

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                                "Gambling/predictions" I bet most of your crypto goes there, eh?

                                No, I'm not rich enough to be wasting money and don't really enjoy feeling like my heart is going to jump out of my chest, gambling with literal pennies once in a blue moon is more of my style.

                                And no, I'm not clicking a link that says "money america" or "bazaar"

                                No worries, I'll post some screenshots for you.

                                ::: spoiler Screenshots

                                :::

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                                • G [email protected]

                                  What actual items or services are you buying with crypto? Trading and buying other crypto doesn't count, neither does selling the crypto

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                                  If you haven't bought illicit drugs from a darknet market, you're doing crypto and possibly life wrong

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                                  • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                    Lightning Labs launched the Lightning Network in 2018 with the goal of reducing the cost and time required for cryptocurrency transaction. Specifically, the bitcoin blockchain can only process around 7 transactions per second (compared to Visa Inc., which can process around 24,000 transactions per second). Despite initial enthusiasm for the Lightning Network, reports on social media of failed transactions, security vulnerabilities, and over-complication lead to a decline in interest.

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                                    I'm not really that familiar with LN, to be honest. It looks like there's almost $500 million in the network available for transactions (source), and according to this report, there were about 6.6 million transactions in August of 2023.

                                    Not MasterCard or Visa levels, for sure, but also not a 10 minute wait for a transaction to complete either.

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                                      Source.

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                                      Is national payment processing the solution?... International public payment processing?

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        Agreed. If it's not illegal then it should be allowed.
                                        Not that I approve of this type of content, but corporations should not be selectively enforcing their morals.

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                                        I think platforms should freely moderate and that payment processors shouldn't even know the legality

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                                          While the effect of not having as much random porn on steam is kinda nice, the underlying reasons for this are fucking horrifying because it's further proof that some giant american companies (visa, paypal, mastercard) are the global morality police.

                                          And it's just random porn subgenres getting removed anyway so it kinda does nothing about the flood of those anyway.

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                                          It won't be random - MasterVisa attacks the more 'vile' genres first to establish precedent, then they will start to persecute LGBTQ+ sexuality. The endgame is to define your everyday life, including whom you are allowed to love.

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