Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.
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I didn't know this till I heard a podcast series about this, but the global rulemakes for porn are Visa and Mastercard. They decide what "goes too far" and remove a site from their service if they don't like it, effectively cutting off all revenue streams and killing the site. They did this with porn sites and threatened OnlyFans. There are a bunch of rules they've written for the industry (e.g. fingering an orofice with4 fingers was acceptable, but when the thumb goes in then it becomes "fisting" and this used to be unacceptable), but many rules are unwritten and have to be guessed.
I think this is the podcast series for anyone interested (although I heard this a long time ago and I'm not sure if it was a different series and I'm not going to listen again to confirm).
yup they did this a LONG time ago with porn sites and DVD sales. I used to work in that industry as a web developer in the early 00s. Third party billers specifically set up for the porn industry thrived because of this.
there were many silly rules like you said, no fisting, at most two fingers in the asshole, Incest was "OK" as long as it was "step-" whatever BUT you could get away with it if you laid the ground work initially and say "step-mom" or whatever and then later on just say "mom". Step-Dad was...hit or miss if you could get away with it. Scat was a no go BUT piss was ok IF it was from Europe, sorry US folks, you're not allowed to piss on each other and film it in the good ol United States according to Visa and Mastercard. Finally some stuff like gang bangs or "abuse" porn was fine AS LONG as the girl at the end of the video has a mini interview claiming what a great time she had while covered in jizz. Visa and Mastercard needed to ensure this lady enjoyed herself.
fucking really dumb rules and I would have LOVED to be a fly in the room when Visa and Mastercard lawyers came up with these things.
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This is why cryptocurrencies were created. getmonero.org
No, they were created to facilitate pyramid schemes and scams.
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shipping company should be able to refuse to ship products from businesses they don’t approve of
Sure, I don't have a problem with that. I would use another shipping company.
What about either of those companies refusing service to someone because of their sexual orientation or gender identity?
That is not remotely the same thing and a gross false equivalence.
We're talking about platforming incest hentai games and you're making a comparison to serving Black and queer people. I don't think we're going to see eye to eye on this, have a good one.
No, it's similar because it's a business making a value judgement instead of a business judgement. It would be different if your exact argument hadn't been used against those groups in the past.
I doubt we'll see eye to eye as well. I'm not okay with discrimination and I don't think the beliefs of corporations matter, even when they're being judgey about sex stuff I don't understand.
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You're like the negative photo of a boomer. "Everything I don't like is capitalism!"
God forbid I pin the actual reason for the complaint that is effecting you and explain why.
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Drawn and CSAM don't go together
wrote last edited by [email protected]I didn't come here to have that argument. Things as they are, you can search for lolicon in most corporate owned search engines and be told about csam being illegal. It is what it is and I used that as the basis for my argument not your feelings on...what, thought crime?
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As long as the shit is on the internet where kids can find it, i'm gonna have problems with it.
Do you think Lemmy checks for age?
Stop using children as a stand-in for your discomfort. That is so overdone.
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No, they were created to facilitate pyramid schemes and scams.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Cool, I'll keep transacting privately and uncensored with minimal fees, no middle man and predictable inflation with my pyramid scheme and you're free to stick to your surveilled, censored, ever inflating FIAT.
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I feel it was a good answer to the question posed
Imagine you can't use visa or mastercard. What other fucking payment card acceptance system are you going to use for payment processing in under 30 seconds?
Ok, and you forgot cash. That can be used to process payment too if you think about it.
Just not an appropriate solution for this context though, is it?
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Note that from some countries (germany at least) you might need a vpn to access the 18+ parts of DLsite (on that note, both steam and gog have a few porn games delisted if you're in germany, thanks to some "think of the children" people, but JAST sells them anyway if they have it)
Yeah that even applies to some games that aren’t porn games but just feature nudity like the Fear & Hunger series.
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I didn't come here to have that argument. Things as they are, you can search for lolicon in most corporate owned search engines and be told about csam being illegal. It is what it is and I used that as the basis for my argument not your feelings on...what, thought crime?
Ohh look i did want to to argue either. I just think it is a bad idea to throw those two together because most people are too ignorant/emotional to make a difference and thats bad.
And a thought is not a crime imo so whatever fantasy rocks your boat idc.
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Ok, and you forgot cash. That can be used to process payment too if you think about it.
Just not an appropriate solution for this context though, is it?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Considering your question was about a "payment card acceptance system" "for payment processing in under 30 seconds", no, cash is not an appropriate answer to your very specific question.
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Cool, I'll keep transacting privately and uncensored with minimal fees, no middle man and predictable inflation with my pyramid scheme and you're free to stick to your surveilled, censored, ever inflating FIAT.
What actual items or services are you buying with crypto? Trading and buying other crypto doesn't count, neither does selling the crypto
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yup they did this a LONG time ago with porn sites and DVD sales. I used to work in that industry as a web developer in the early 00s. Third party billers specifically set up for the porn industry thrived because of this.
there were many silly rules like you said, no fisting, at most two fingers in the asshole, Incest was "OK" as long as it was "step-" whatever BUT you could get away with it if you laid the ground work initially and say "step-mom" or whatever and then later on just say "mom". Step-Dad was...hit or miss if you could get away with it. Scat was a no go BUT piss was ok IF it was from Europe, sorry US folks, you're not allowed to piss on each other and film it in the good ol United States according to Visa and Mastercard. Finally some stuff like gang bangs or "abuse" porn was fine AS LONG as the girl at the end of the video has a mini interview claiming what a great time she had while covered in jizz. Visa and Mastercard needed to ensure this lady enjoyed herself.
fucking really dumb rules and I would have LOVED to be a fly in the room when Visa and Mastercard lawyers came up with these things.
This is gold!! I'd love to read more about it!! It's very fascinating how payment system can control the type of content that is available for consumers
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What actual items or services are you buying with crypto? Trading and buying other crypto doesn't count, neither does selling the crypto
wrote last edited by [email protected]My VPN, VPS, phone bill, bunch of games and license keys, steam points, sms verification services all directly for crypto. I also buy gift cards to grocery stores, takeout delivery apps and the local equivalent of Amazon all for crypto and use them to do most of my shopping. Other things I used it for is donating to foss projects I use and some just for fun penny gambling/predictions. Once I even got paid in crypto for some freelance work I did. If you count the gift cards most of my spending is done in crypto, usually monero.
Have a look at monerica.com and xmrbazaar.com if you're looking for places to spend your crypto.
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One protest away from being banned from using currency, from purchasing or even getting paid. Why invest in military police when you can just mass ostracise dissenters with one click
Exactly. That level of control scares me.
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Oh no, anyway.
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If you can't buy these games on Steam anymore, where can you buy them?
Piratebay.
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This has been a thing for at least ten years now. Credit card and money processor companies have policied content for ages. That's why it's hard in some ways to pay for porn. They fucking strong arm and moralize. To be fair I only have like one game on steam that's smut but since it was snow days I'm betting it will be removed.
You know what? I'm going to buy some yaoi on steam out of spite. Spite yaoi.
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My VPN, VPS, phone bill, bunch of games and license keys, steam points, sms verification services all directly for crypto. I also buy gift cards to grocery stores, takeout delivery apps and the local equivalent of Amazon all for crypto and use them to do most of my shopping. Other things I used it for is donating to foss projects I use and some just for fun penny gambling/predictions. Once I even got paid in crypto for some freelance work I did. If you count the gift cards most of my spending is done in crypto, usually monero.
Have a look at monerica.com and xmrbazaar.com if you're looking for places to spend your crypto.
"Gambling/predictions" I bet most of your crypto goes there, eh? And no, I'm not clicking a link that says "money america" or "bazaar"
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"Gambling/predictions" I bet most of your crypto goes there, eh? And no, I'm not clicking a link that says "money america" or "bazaar"
wrote last edited by [email protected]"Gambling/predictions" I bet most of your crypto goes there, eh?
No, I'm not rich enough to be wasting money and don't really enjoy feeling like my heart is going to jump out of my chest, gambling with literal pennies once in a blue moon is more of my style.
And no, I'm not clicking a link that says "money america" or "bazaar"
No worries, I'll post some screenshots for you.
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