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    However, they’re not necessarily picking up on nuance, or subtleties. And they will often not take into account how the sentence they just read fits into the overall context of the piece

    Which explains sooo many internet arguments.

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    God damn, it does.

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      If there's no pictures children won't read them.

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        I had a coworker approach me on break and start telling me about a book he was reading and how much he was enjoying it. Towards the end, he mentioned struggling with it and that he wished someone had told him how great reading was earlier. We were both damn near 30, and it was a YA novel. I resisted the asshole urge to roast him because, shit, at least he's trying?

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        We've all got to start somewhere.

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          I can't read without pictures!

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          Actually, I wonder if people who have difficulty visualizing from words would struggle to, like, make their own pictures.

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            Actually, I wonder if people who have difficulty visualizing from words would struggle to, like, make their own pictures.

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            As someone who has never been a big book reader (though I read tech manuals and news articles), I finally figured out I probably have aphantasia. This finally connected a lot of dots for me.

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              It was the general reading/vocabulary.

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              I don't think it matters in this context. Person is trying to get into reading, nothing roastable about that.

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                Terry does include breaks and beats in the stories that many other authors would adorn as a new chapter, but he never does. honestly imo that makes things almost filmic - for example where a switch in perspective usually prompts a new chapter and pushes an author to make it longer, Terry can just write a single page or even a few paragraphs to tease you a bit of what's going on elsewhere in the story, and then go back to the usual perspective but now with the added context & tension

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                that makes things almost filmic

                His early books literally started with a visual description of the reader's imagination "camera" gradually focusing on Great A'Tuin, the Disc, whatever region the action was going to happen in, and so on.

                Filmic is exactly what he was going for.

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                • machinist@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                  I've known several men that were proud that they didn't read books. (Not that they read manga or anything, either.)

                  One of them, in particuular, was a grown up version of a stereotypical highschool bully. Willfully ignorant doesn't begin to describe him. I ever meet him in a dark alley, I'd fucking gut him.

                  Anyhow, this behaviour (pride in ignorance) among women is rare enough that I've never seen it. When I was doing online dating, I had great success asking what they're reading and using decent grammar and vocabulary.

                  Anti-intellectualism and willfull ignorance have a lot to do with the situation here in the US. I think it's mostly a male problem as well.

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                  Have you ever done any sort of IT support? I was internal IT in my first job and we had those people. It was mostly women 50+ years old who were proud that they know nothing about computers and would actively avoid listening when I tried to tell them how to do something trivial. Even when it was part of their jobs to do it. Then they would ask for help with the same stupid shit a few weeks later.

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                  • grrgyle@slrpnk.netG [email protected]

                    Actually, I wonder if people who have difficulty visualizing from words would struggle to, like, make their own pictures.

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                    as a reader and writer with aphantasia, it's literally never once mattered to me. i love a good fantasy and just don't consider visualizing an obligate part of the experience. though i could definitely understand how it might be helpful

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                      wtf is a "chapter book"?

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                      It's like a webnovel but not necessarily web.

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                        I had a coworker approach me on break and start telling me about a book he was reading and how much he was enjoying it. Towards the end, he mentioned struggling with it and that he wished someone had told him how great reading was earlier. We were both damn near 30, and it was a YA novel. I resisted the asshole urge to roast him because, shit, at least he's trying?

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                        It's better to read what you enjoy than what you "should" be reading.

                        Given enough time, they'll maybe become the same thing anyway.

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                          Have you ever done any sort of IT support? I was internal IT in my first job and we had those people. It was mostly women 50+ years old who were proud that they know nothing about computers and would actively avoid listening when I tried to tell them how to do something trivial. Even when it was part of their jobs to do it. Then they would ask for help with the same stupid shit a few weeks later.

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                          Not IT support directly but I've had that same experience with plenty of boomer men in machine shops. They're fucking proud that they suck at computer yet CNC has been around since the '80s in a big way.

                          Ran a shop for a while and still have the terminating document from when I fired one of those fuckers.

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                            As someone who has never been a big book reader (though I read tech manuals and news articles), I finally figured out I probably have aphantasia. This finally connected a lot of dots for me.

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                            Do you enjoy graphic novels?

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                              as a reader and writer with aphantasia, it's literally never once mattered to me. i love a good fantasy and just don't consider visualizing an obligate part of the experience. though i could definitely understand how it might be helpful

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                              That's great to hear. And for what it's worth while I can imagine simple images, I don't usually while I'm reading. I just sort of understand what's happening in a non-visual way.

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                                Have you ever done any sort of IT support? I was internal IT in my first job and we had those people. It was mostly women 50+ years old who were proud that they know nothing about computers and would actively avoid listening when I tried to tell them how to do something trivial. Even when it was part of their jobs to do it. Then they would ask for help with the same stupid shit a few weeks later.

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                                Fucking hell, so much this. They're so goddamn proud of their ignorance. This is why I enforce a very strict "we're mechanics, not chauffeurs" policy in my team. We've got no duty - either literal or moral - to make up for incompetence.

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                                  However, they’re not necessarily picking up on nuance, or subtleties. And they will often not take into account how the sentence they just read fits into the overall context of the piece

                                  Which explains sooo many internet arguments.

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                                  No this is about reading books, not arguing. Are you stupid?

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                                    The problem with comic books is that they're all about this big flashy pictures and they never have any words in them. Oh well, anyway, off to read some more Chainsaw Man and One Punch...

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                                      I listen to audio books more often than reading an actual book.

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                                        As you read these comments, remember that 56% of Americans read at a 6th-grade level or above; the rest read below that.

                                        Please be gentle.

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                                        remember that 56% of Americans read at a 6th-grade level or above; the rest read below that.

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                                          Have you ever done any sort of IT support? I was internal IT in my first job and we had those people. It was mostly women 50+ years old who were proud that they know nothing about computers and would actively avoid listening when I tried to tell them how to do something trivial. Even when it was part of their jobs to do it. Then they would ask for help with the same stupid shit a few weeks later.

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                                          If I was as bad at reading and responding to emails as the folks I support...

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