HR people smiling at you thinking that you are a complete moron
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You can't overrule me. You're accuser, not a judge.
This is why I don't like to roleplay with you.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Neat, you gonna address the faulty premise of your position or just keep transparently deflecting with... whatever this cringe is.
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The only good thing about getting laid off is 1) you can at least collect unemployment 2) It's easier to get another job because you weren't simply fired
What's the difference between being laid off and being fired?
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What's the difference between being laid off and being fired?
You can't collect unemployment if you get fired.
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Ready to be laid off, i can feel it coming considering the economy feels like its on stilts and my company scrapping the bottom of the barrel for projects to work on.
I don't own anything and don't have anybody.
Prepared for my NEET life.
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Sometimes you can even see it through the telephone
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That HR lady is totally breedable.
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OBJECTION!
Men can be hot too.
Furthermore, I don't know if @[email protected] is a man or a woman neither do I know their sexual orientation.
So my comment was pervy, but not sexist. I deny the allegation!
You can be sexist to both women and men.
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The two or three juniors they'll eventually have to hire to do the job
Which turns out to be a ton more costly than just paying the employees raise.
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You can't collect unemployment if you get fired.
Yeah you can. You forfeit UI if you quit voluntarily. You’d only lose it if you got fired for doing something illegal, I think
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HR lady once spit a whole ass pack of lies about my work performance, and had cut off my email access so I couldn’t prove her wrong, which would have been trivially easy. Realized before I spoke up that if the HR director is lying this bad, there’s no reason to even try to “prove” I’m right, just a really toxic company.
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You can be sexist to both women and men.
Nice. Equality at last.
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This is why I have so far refused to be a people manager. I'm not going to be able to emotionally handle laying someone off.
Same, I couldn't take it. It's hard to be in that position without feeling like a traitor.
Actually both times I got laid off my managers took the day off to hide while HR did their wetwork, only reaching out later to gush about how bad they felt.
Kind of cowardly tbh, but I get it—that's why we aren't managers.
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Yeah you can. You forfeit UI if you quit voluntarily. You’d only lose it if you got fired for doing something illegal, I think
That's my understanding too.
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Can't they just file a police report suggesting you stole it? It's the government's job then and since the police barely have to investigate anything they are sure to actually do something. That's a quick way to get a search warrant filed.
No, at least not in the US. It does not meet the legal definition of theft because (I believe) the property was initially acquired legally.
Otherwise, the police would be doing repo for things like delinquent car loans, which is dystopian corporate hellscape stuff.
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Since its clear you are a bad worker leave off a few important task. They can chalk it up later to themselves as proof they made the right decision when those tasks fall through the cracks.
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What's the difference between being laid off and being fired?
A lay off is generally broad in scope. A department might get laid off.
Firings are usually with cause and individual. You are fired for showing up late every day. You're laid off when they simply don't need you anymore.
This varies from state to state across the US and probably only applies here, but if you're fired with cause, you generally don't get unemployment benefits. If you're laid off you might get a severance on top of unemployment.
Particularly shitty companies will always fire as many people as they can prior to a lay off. A big part of HR's job at these organizations is making sure they have a case to fire as many people as possible at any given time. If you've ever worked in any call center in the US, you've been subjected to this, knowingly or not. They'll document a handful of even the slightest grievances and make sure they have two in the chamber at any given time for any given employee, so if it looks like they need to get rid of a lot of people in the near future they'll start digging for a third infraction.
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I got laid off about five and a half years ago, at the start of Covid. The meeting was with my manager and his boss (who I was also friendly with). I got a meeting invite and asked if we could push it back an hour so I could drive my wife to work, they said sure. I told my wife on the drive that I was getting laid off. Sure enough, I was. They paid me five weeks severance and gave me resources to file for unemployment. It was due to Covid causing a huge drop in money coming in, which was understandable. Honestly, I didn't like my job, I had already hired a company to rewrite my resumé. So it worked out. At least my boss and his boss had the spine to do it personally. I'll always give them credit for that.
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Ready to be laid off, i can feel it coming considering the economy feels like its on stilts and my company scrapping the bottom of the barrel for projects to work on.
I don't own anything and don't have anybody.
Prepared for my NEET life.
If you don't have anybody, it will be hard to be a neet. They are usually maintained by someone else (mostly parents)
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Yeah you can. You forfeit UI if you quit voluntarily. You’d only lose it if you got fired for doing something illegal, I think
Depends on the state but basically they have to prove it was for cause. You being late nonstop and being fired? No UE. You getting fired for "no call no show" when you ha e the phone records to prove you called in and you have no disciplinary record? You'll get UE.
I got "fired" once in my life right before a big round of layoffs for the above reason. This was in TX so my UE got denied right out of the gate but when I appealed the company didn't even bother showing up.
It was a pretty slam dunk case of them reaching and pulling shit out of their ass so I won the appeal.
Always appeal, especially in republican states where they default to siding with the companies.
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What's the difference between being laid off and being fired?
Lay offs aren't related to your behaviour. Just that they cannot afford to keep you.
