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    This is a slippery slope to baptismal logic gates

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      Baptism is such a weird thing. It's ritualized cleansing turned into one and done

      You can get baptized as many times as you like, it doesn't stack

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      • theneverfox@pawb.socialT [email protected]

        Baptism is such a weird thing. It's ritualized cleansing turned into one and done

        You can get baptized as many times as you like, it doesn't stack

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        Per the actual wiki, some denominations seem to think it's a sin or heresy to do someone more than once. Which seems like what the nullification in the baptize function is supposed to capture.

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          That honestly seems like the best way to write conditionalBaptize but I still hate it. Probably because IRL you'd just rewrite baptism instead of retrofitting the function with a clever use of id.

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            Baptism is such a weird thing. It's ritualized cleansing turned into one and done

            You can get baptized as many times as you like, it doesn't stack

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            Could you imagine how op you could become though if baptisms stacked

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            • theneverfox@pawb.socialT [email protected]

              Baptism is such a weird thing. It's ritualized cleansing turned into one and done

              You can get baptized as many times as you like, it doesn't stack

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              The LDS (Mormons) actually do repeat it, in a sense. Their weekly sacrament is a renewal of their baptismal blessings

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              • maven@lemmy.zipM [email protected]
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                Which denominations implement idempotent baptisms?

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                  Could you imagine how op you could become though if baptisms stacked

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                  Can you get more clean than clean?

                  Numbers are a human thing. The universe don't care

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                    That honestly seems like the best way to write conditionalBaptize but I still hate it. Probably because IRL you'd just rewrite baptism instead of retrofitting the function with a clever use of id.

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                    This is probably an ok use for a GADT. Something like:

                    {-# LANGUAGE DataKinds      #-}
                    {-# LANGUAGE GADTs          #-}
                    {-# LANGUAGE KindSignatures #-}
                    
                    data Bap = Baptized | Unbaptized
                    
                    data Person :: Bap -> * where
                       Baptize :: Person Unbaptized -> Person Baptized
                       NewPerson :: Person Unbaptized
                    
                    conditionalBaptize :: Person a -> Person Baptized
                    conditionalBaptize p =
                        case p of NewPerson -> Baptize p
                                  Baptize _ -> p
                    
                    main = return ()
                    
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                    • maven@lemmy.zipM [email protected]
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                      Sounds like Haskell needs an official Saint.

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                      • theneverfox@pawb.socialT [email protected]

                        Baptism is such a weird thing. It's ritualized cleansing turned into one and done

                        You can get baptized as many times as you like, it doesn't stack

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                        Baptism is such a weird thing.

                        I think Haskell is such a weird thing

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                        • theneverfox@pawb.socialT [email protected]

                          Can you get more clean than clean?

                          Numbers are a human thing. The universe don't care

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                          I think erasing one's body could make you more clean than clean

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                            This is probably an ok use for a GADT. Something like:

                            {-# LANGUAGE DataKinds      #-}
                            {-# LANGUAGE GADTs          #-}
                            {-# LANGUAGE KindSignatures #-}
                            
                            data Bap = Baptized | Unbaptized
                            
                            data Person :: Bap -> * where
                               Baptize :: Person Unbaptized -> Person Baptized
                               NewPerson :: Person Unbaptized
                            
                            conditionalBaptize :: Person a -> Person Baptized
                            conditionalBaptize p =
                                case p of NewPerson -> Baptize p
                                          Baptize _ -> p
                            
                            main = return ()
                            
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                            Thank you for refactoring baptism. How do we push this to production now?

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                            • theneverfox@pawb.socialT [email protected]

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                              Numbers are a human thing. The universe don't care

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                              I imagine if baptisms stacked, you could pile on a gazillion of them like ablative armor against incoming sin.

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                                The LDS (Mormons) actually do repeat it, in a sense. Their weekly sacrament is a renewal of their baptismal blessings

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                                Probably the reason some other sects call double-dipping a sin, so as to not be like those Mormons.

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                                  Thank you for refactoring baptism. How do we push this to production now?

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                                  Hey hey hey, let's start with a PR, we are not savages here aren't we?

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                                      Per the actual wiki, some denominations seem to think it's a sin or heresy to do someone more than once. Which seems like what the nullification in the baptize function is supposed to capture.

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                                      some denominations seem to think it's a sin or heresy to do someone more than once

                                      Those denominations must have really high divorce rates..

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                                      • theneverfox@pawb.socialT [email protected]

                                        Can you get more clean than clean?

                                        Numbers are a human thing. The universe don't care

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                                        Numbers are a human thing. The universe don't care

                                        Doubly so with religion, though 🤷

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                                          I think erasing one's body could make you more clean than clean

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                                          So what you're saying is that fundies need to be cremated? Possibly AFTER death from other causes?

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