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  • R [email protected]

    They really need to load back to front, then unload front to back, if it was organized it would go so much better. Like announce when each group can stand and get bags and when each can leave.

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    Airlines: "Wait, but I thought if you unload front to back you get a UTI"

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    • thal3s@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

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      Let all 200 of you live a separate life for a year and you would all start killing one another as soon as you boarded the plane. By the time the plane landed all of 'you' would all have to be carried off.

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        There's an effect I see in situations like this where the people in a big hurried rush end up being slow asses because apparently they don't care about this working efficiently, they just care about when they can stop waiting.

        On a plane these are the people who leap out of their seat and block your row, only to start searching for their bag once it's their turn to get off the plane.

        I see the same from drivers at red lights. If there are multiple lanes waiting to go, and one car has to inch forward every 5 seconds even though they are already way past the line, then in my very limited anecdotal experience there's like a 90% chance when the light turns green they just sit there for a few seconds after I start going.

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        one car has to inch forward every 5 seconds even though they are already way past the line

        In my limited experience these cars are driven by people so absorbed by their phones that they don’t realize they aren’t fully engaging the brakes.

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        • thal3s@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

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          And me. I'd just wait the 30 seconds for all of yous to deboard and then take my sweet time.

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            Me and my 300 clones spider-crawling over the seats to deplane.

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              Seeing the crowd of people squeeze off the Airplane like a tube of toothpaste only to all congregate around baggage claim is the same energy as passing aggressively on the street only for you to pull up next to them at the redlight.

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              This ignores:

              1. People with only a carry on.
              2. People with tight connecting flights they need to get to.
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                The problem is underallocated overhead space. You give us maximum dimensions, and you know the number of seats. Fucking have sufficient overhead space.

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                The amount of space is the amount of space. You can't create more, because it's literally constrained by the roof of the plane. It's already maxed out.

                The only thing they could do to make sure there was "enough space" is to have less tightly packrd seats and carry less people, which again they aren't going to do for the obvious reason - profit.

                Or - reduce the max carry on baggage dimensions, which I'm sure people would equally complain about. And would make them look worse against other airlines which "allow" bigger bags, despite there not being enough space to put them!

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                • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzB [email protected]

                  one car has to inch forward every 5 seconds even though they are already way past the line

                  In my limited experience these cars are driven by people so absorbed by their phones that they don’t realize they aren’t fully engaging the brakes.

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                  I think automatic transmissions have conditioned people to sit too far from the pedals.

                  I just bought an old classic and haven't driven stick in a decade. After I got everything comfy and adjusted how I wanted I realized something: I couldn't get the clutch all the way down if I tried, I'm too far away. Same for the brakes.

                  Power brakes have made us feel as though all we need is the braking power of our toes, but what happens when your ABS pump goes out and you have to use actual force to apply the brakes at 65mph? Do you have the leverage to get those brakes as far down as they need to to stop safely?

                  If we were all still popping clutches at every red light I don't think this would be an issue. I think we'd have less distracted drivers too, needing to shift manually keeps a driver engaged with the car and road.

                  I Wasn't advocating to ban Automatic Transmissions when this comment started, I am now.

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                  • zewm@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

                    My point still stands. Everyone is living their own lives and have their reasons for being in a hurry. Not everyone is a chill dude like you.

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                    It stands, but it neither contradicts nor supports my line of thinking. I was aware of it already when I wondered about adults constantly being in a rush. You can restate it if you like but it doesn't change my curiosity at the nature of this common problem.

                    My comment is more about what the underlying cause of the pervasiveness of this issue. Were people always like this or is it one of these fun results of industrialisation? Is it a western culture thing? Is it a capitalism thing? Rhetorical questions in this case - I'm not seeking specific answers from anyone today. I am interested but it feels like we'll end up arguing and I could do without that.

                    I'd be curious how different cultures handle rush, timekeeping, social pressure related to commitments. Needing to rush constantly seems like a bit of either a systemic failure or a deliberate dark pattern.

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                      Me and my 300 clones spider-crawling over the seats to deplane.

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                      SURRRRRGE!!!!!

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                      • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                        It's not complicated. You just said you're in no hurry. Unless you have a window seat, you couldn't possibly not be slowing others down.

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                        Sorry, I didn't think I needed to outright state that I'm not obstructing others. I assumed, it would seem incorrectly, that that went without saying!

                        If you'd like you can assume I also block people at the baggage claim and take my time when I'm at the front of the passport control queue with people behind me. I don't, obviously, but if you're going to start off assuming shiftiness why stop at the basics! Take it the whole way! Presume I'm incapable of using a luggage trolley too! Why not!

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                        • flamekebab@piefed.socialF [email protected]

                          Sorry, I didn't think I needed to outright state that I'm not obstructing others. I assumed, it would seem incorrectly, that that went without saying!

                          If you'd like you can assume I also block people at the baggage claim and take my time when I'm at the front of the passport control queue with people behind me. I don't, obviously, but if you're going to start off assuming shiftiness why stop at the basics! Take it the whole way! Presume I'm incapable of using a luggage trolley too! Why not!

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                          I mean, I was mostly kidding when I made the original comment, but less so when you seemed to double down. Either way, you don't sound like the problem people I am referring to. No harm meant.

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                            I mean, I was mostly kidding when I made the original comment, but less so when you seemed to double down. Either way, you don't sound like the problem people I am referring to. No harm meant.

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                            That's fair enough, thanks for being chill about it! Opinions about this stuff are all over the shop in this thread so it's hard to be sure. When I learn I'm part of a given problem I try to mend my ways but on this I feel like it's a lot of other people that could do with learning a lesson.

                            Most of us don't need to be in such a rush - some people do though! Get out of their way!

                            I try to remind myself that I'm just not that important. An extra few minutes just don't matter much for me in the grand scheme of things. Those few minutes might make a difference to someone with a dying relative or similar - I'm happy to simmer down and wait my turn (or even more, giving up my turn so others can go before me). Hence why being called part of the problem is a bit upsetting - I'm trying to be the kind of person I'd want to meet!

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                              That's fair enough, thanks for being chill about it! Opinions about this stuff are all over the shop in this thread so it's hard to be sure. When I learn I'm part of a given problem I try to mend my ways but on this I feel like it's a lot of other people that could do with learning a lesson.

                              Most of us don't need to be in such a rush - some people do though! Get out of their way!

                              I try to remind myself that I'm just not that important. An extra few minutes just don't matter much for me in the grand scheme of things. Those few minutes might make a difference to someone with a dying relative or similar - I'm happy to simmer down and wait my turn (or even more, giving up my turn so others can go before me). Hence why being called part of the problem is a bit upsetting - I'm trying to be the kind of person I'd want to meet!

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                              Makes sense. Hopefully I'll convey my humor better in the future.

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                                I think automatic transmissions have conditioned people to sit too far from the pedals.

                                I just bought an old classic and haven't driven stick in a decade. After I got everything comfy and adjusted how I wanted I realized something: I couldn't get the clutch all the way down if I tried, I'm too far away. Same for the brakes.

                                Power brakes have made us feel as though all we need is the braking power of our toes, but what happens when your ABS pump goes out and you have to use actual force to apply the brakes at 65mph? Do you have the leverage to get those brakes as far down as they need to to stop safely?

                                If we were all still popping clutches at every red light I don't think this would be an issue. I think we'd have less distracted drivers too, needing to shift manually keeps a driver engaged with the car and road.

                                I Wasn't advocating to ban Automatic Transmissions when this comment started, I am now.

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                                Do you have the leverage to get those brakes as far down as they need to to stop safely?

                                Hi there friend, would you kindly get the heck out of my nightmares?

                                Responding to the rest of your comment: I love driving a manual transmission. My first three cars were manuals, and we have two automatics right now, but my next car in a year or so will probably be something fun and agile with a manual. Or EV of course, depending on what's available for the price at the time.

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                                  I use that phrase all the time and I'm not a terrible driver. In fact, I rarely drive at all. I work from home and live in a walkable area. So yeah, literally if everyone drove like me, there would be less traffic.

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                                  Fair enough. Most people mean, "If everyone drove 85 in the 55, ignored safe following distances, and didn't waste time signaling and checking their blind spots, there would be no traffic." Those people are not correct.

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                                    Did you ask the hotel? If you are nice they might wash it for free

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                                    Nah, I wasn't staying at a hotel. I had gone to Mexico with my childhood church for evangelism reasons, back when you could cross the border with just your birth certificate. We were staying in a building converted to a bunkhouse that was owned by the church. One room full of bunkbeds for the women, one room for the men, basic kitchenette, one bathroom for each gender, no laundry, couldn't leave without a chaperone.

                                    It was the worst vacation I've ever had.

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                                      Obligatory X... I mean CGP Grey

                                      In totally unrelated matter, I now really despise ppl who put their personal item on the overhead bin and then take like 1 min to take them off even though it could fit under their seat

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                                        No. It turns out driving and grabbing a bag while walking are actually very different activities.

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                                        It's the same attitude. People who disregard traffic laws to drive faster think everyone is causing the problem, without thinking about how their driving affects everyone else. The guy who gets up and grabs his bag first doesn't think about the 5 other people in the row who have to wait to get their bag, or that there are 50 rows of people that are all trying to do the same thing.

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                                          I think automatic transmissions have conditioned people to sit too far from the pedals.

                                          I just bought an old classic and haven't driven stick in a decade. After I got everything comfy and adjusted how I wanted I realized something: I couldn't get the clutch all the way down if I tried, I'm too far away. Same for the brakes.

                                          Power brakes have made us feel as though all we need is the braking power of our toes, but what happens when your ABS pump goes out and you have to use actual force to apply the brakes at 65mph? Do you have the leverage to get those brakes as far down as they need to to stop safely?

                                          If we were all still popping clutches at every red light I don't think this would be an issue. I think we'd have less distracted drivers too, needing to shift manually keeps a driver engaged with the car and road.

                                          I Wasn't advocating to ban Automatic Transmissions when this comment started, I am now.

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                                          I feel this. Both in terms of driver engagement safety and in how much I loathe traditional automatic transmissions. Still stuck owning one in one of the two vehicles I have at the moment but only because it was all I could afford for the second of two vehicles large enough to fit all my kids.

                                          I have had several manual transmission vehicles and the other current one is a PHEV and one of the rare models that is a series hybrid so it drives like a true EV.

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