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  • diplomjodler3@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

    The meaning is actually pretty clear. Being "woke" means being aware of social injustice, specifically the systemic racism in US society. Being anti-woke simply means that you outwardly deny said systemic racism but in reality it means you're condoning it.

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    Being “woke” means being aware of social injustice

    From the left-liberal perspective, sure. But Libertarians and far-right theocrats have also employed the term as a positive self-descriptor, insisting that they had a more enlightened and historical view.

    Being anti-woke simply means that you outwardly deny said systemic racism

    Racists have employed the term to mean they blatantly reject the history put forward by liberal scholars. It's a form of political denialism, not unlike climate change denial or holocaust denial.

    The irony is in how reactionaries will embrace the term and its synonyms positively - Dark Enlightenment, Great Awakening, Objectivism, "Wake up Sheeple!" - to imply they're the ones who truly understand the victims of state persecution (inevitably, rich white cis/straight men).

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      Still is if you aren't a twat

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      I honestly don't see people using "woke" positively these days.

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        Nope. One side are Nazis, dude. If you're not opposed to fascism, got some bad news for you...

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        I guess the idea is that if you're spending all your energy being anti-MAGA then you aren't focussing on the real struggle (class warfare). But of course one can focus on class warfare while still being anti-MAGA.

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        • gradually_adjusting@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

          When did we decide that the worst people in the world get to decide what words mean

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          It's just how linguistics works I guess.

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            You could choose to be neither.

            Participating in culture wars manufactured to drive social-media-engagement isn't obligatory.

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            That's a shit argument that casts aside billions of human beings and their rights as such. And your follow-up is even more trolly? Fuck off.

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              I guess the idea is that if you're spending all your energy being anti-MAGA then you aren't focussing on the real struggle (class warfare). But of course one can focus on class warfare while still being anti-MAGA.

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              "MAGAt" works, too, FWIW

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                Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#20th_century

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                I'm fine with ignorants and some twats, but not both at once.

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                  You could choose to be neither.

                  Participating in culture wars manufactured to drive social-media-engagement isn't obligatory.

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                  "Choosing to be neither" is choosing to be an ignorant twat but too afraid to own up to it.

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                    Reminder that woke was originally used as a positive term.

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                    What's amusing is that the Wikipedia article traces its origin back to the Republican Party.

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                      Also a reminder that woke is used negatively by the same people who cannot tell the difference between badly photoshopped letters and a gang tattoo.

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                      That was depressing. I knew our president was dumb, but I still didn't think he could be that dumb.

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                        I guess the idea is that if you're spending all your energy being anti-MAGA then you aren't focussing on the real struggle (class warfare). But of course one can focus on class warfare while still being anti-MAGA.

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                        I absolutely agree. And, the shit part of it all? It's been going on for pretty much all of recorded history (class warfare, that is).

                        Edit: To clarify my position a little, I see choosing MAGA as willfully submitting to the parasitic "elites".

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                          Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#20th_century

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                          Saying a person is woke is like saying they are not a mindless sheep going through life asleep at the wheel.

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                            Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#20th_century

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                            So conservatives version of this is their deweaponization of the word nazi? Fuck this timeline.

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                              Saying a person is woke is like saying they are not a mindless sheep going through life asleep at the wheel.

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                              But they call people on the left sheep? How can this be true? /s

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                                "Choosing to be neither" is choosing to be an ignorant twat but too afraid to own up to it.

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                                👆This👆 is how they view the entire non-hegemonic wprld. They admit it.

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                                  Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#20th_century

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                                  I agree that wokeness is more enlightened than ignorance, but I also wonder how woke it is to scorn the less enlightened so hard.

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                                  • quill7513@slrpnk.netQ [email protected]

                                    what are you saying? because it reads like you think nazis are anti-fascist which is WILDLY out of pocket so i'm sure you're trying to say something else, it's just not clear what

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                                    Who has historically defeated fascists?

                                    I don't think that's a hard question to understand.

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                                      It's just how linguistics works I guess.

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                                      La la la lava

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                                        I agree that wokeness is more enlightened than ignorance, but I also wonder how woke it is to scorn the less enlightened so hard.

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                                        I'm sure someone is somewhere grappling with that.

                                        Since the politicians they support and voted in are actively dismantling the government, erecting a dictatorship, and enacting policies guaranteed to get people needlessly killed I don't find myself burdened by such concerns.

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                                          Who has historically defeated fascists?

                                          I don't think that's a hard question to understand.

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                                          woke folk. but you're out here saying being woke is neither good nor bad. so… what are you saying?

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