Hashtags do not replace groups.
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I have literally zero interest in cross pollination between social media types.
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If you have zero interest in the fundamental architecture of the fediverse, why are you in this community? You're probably interacting with "cross pollination" way more than you realize.
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For real. He replied to my Akkoma post, which tagged this Lemmy group.
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What if I told you that you can use Lemmy with Mastodon right nowāand that many people do?
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The tricky part is, the group-supporting fediverse software and the microblogging software need to improve how they interact for this to be as good as it could be.
Right now Mastodon barely supports group users/actors/accounts, however they're called, translating stuff from Lemmy's format in a rather clunky way. Meanwhile Lemmy also has to roughly translate Mastodon's format to its own, working pretty well all things considering, but leaving clear artifacts (subject line/first line repeating, community mention remaining shown, etc.).
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Iām all for it as long as people know that posting on something like mastodon and tagging a lemmy community will then make a post in that community. Could make for great discussions, but could also lead to a lot of posts/spam in the communities.
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@[email protected] With time, that stuff will be ironed out. Group support is in Mastodonās road map. Now Mastodon develops very slowly, so take that with a grain of salt. But the point is that groups are coming to Mastodonā¦ eventually.
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@[email protected] But again, a big reason I recommend groups over hashtags is because you can remove spam from a group, whereas with a hashtag, you cannot.
Soā¦ will that increase spam? Not if moderators actually do their jobs.
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I follow topics and have discussions on Lemmy, keep up with individuals and announcements on Mastodon, and look at cool photos on Pixelfed.
None of my accounts are following anything on other systems.The reason I'm in this community is for discussions like this. We disagree on the nature of using he fundamental architecture of the Fediverse.
I think using Mastodon to engage in Lemmy discussions is extremely awkward without the threading to keep it all organized. Equally, Lemmy is designed specifically around following communities. Following individuals on Mastodon breaks the pattern of the feed. And good luck following either Mastodon accounts or Lemmy groups in Pixelfed.However, having multiple decentralized servers within each system, is plenty of reason for the Fediverse to be better than a centralized platform.
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Which I would never respond to on Mastodon, as it's terrible for discussions.
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As an instance owner and moderator: thatās a horrible way to look at things. Just throwing the onus onto someone else is irresponsible.
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Mastodon is terrible for topical discussions because people donāt use groups. But they can if they knew how to use them.
Now you may say the system was not designed for cross-pollination, but the fundamental system is not Mastodon, and itās not Lemmy: itās ActivityPub.
Now do all these apps implement ActivityPub imperfectly? Yes. But eventually, some app will get it rightāideally one that will let you choose your preferred UI/UX on the fly.
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I have heard of the opposite. Mastodon users can see and comment on lemmy posts, but i have yet to discover how to view mastodon post from lemmy.
If it is indeed possible can you or anyone elaborate how to?
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That would be cool. Might be useful.
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The mastadon user posting the thing needs to tag the Lemmy community in their post and then it will show up like any other post on Lemmy. You wouldn't even know it's from Mastodon unless they said so in the post.
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You're not the first to suggest it, but I still haven't seen anyone do more than linking one from the other. This feels as inconsequential as posting a Twitter screenshot on Reddit. Is there a deeper integration possible?
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I saw this discussion on Lemmy, searched for it with my Mastodon client and, wow, it works! (I guess, we'll see after I hit SEND)
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Not only is it possible, thereās lots of Fediverse software thatās just designed to be a ādumb serverā akin to Nginx. For example, appy:
Now the reason this stuff hasnāt caught fire yet is because weāre just now moving away from āFediverse = Mastodonā. So the idea of federation itself isnāt just a paradigm shift, itās a complete system shock that disrupts our mental models for how social media is supposed to work.
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Is deeper integration possible? Sure, check out how I use !lumoura@piefed with my Akkoma account.
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I guess itās cool that you can if you want, but if Iām searching Mastodon I want content on Mastodon, not Lemmy and vice versa.
I still donāt see the point.
