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    To be fair, it would be easier if English had kept the English terms for anatomy.

    But for some reason everyone decided to only use Latin and Greek derived words.

    Like seriously. Nearly every time I look at Wikipedia for anything, English articles only ever use scientific terms hardly anyone will find useful.

    Example:

    Wolf's entire biological taxonomical tree from species to order. Both the translated German Wikipedia title and the English one:

    Species: Wolf <> Wolf

    Genus: Wolf- and Jackal-like <> Canis

    Tribe: True Dogs <> Canini

    Family: Dogs <> Canidae

    Suborder: Doglike <> Caniformia

    Order: Predatory animal <> Carnivora

    Ask someone what "Caniformia" is and most would probably think you're talking about some region on the US West Coast. Ask someone what "Doglike" refers to and most would probably guess reasonably correct.

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    Where are the smaller lips?

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      Bingo! You win a heated bath mat!

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      holy hell im goated cant believe i remembered that

      ill have to put that in my dating profile "correctly guessed what labia minora is"

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        Where are the smaller lips?

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        Note that these, too, have a German name, which translates to "inner taint-lips". Just calling them "labia" in English is not just defaulting to Latin but also imprecise.

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        • bigbananadealer@lemm.eeB [email protected]

          holy hell im goated cant believe i remembered that

          ill have to put that in my dating profile "correctly guessed what labia minora is"

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          If I were you, I'd changed "guessed what is" to "identified".

          Signals an analytic, inquisitive, and curious mind, rather than someone who happened to fortuitously win a game of "pin the minora on the labia".

          Though admittedly that IS a hell of a game when played right..

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            If I were you, I'd changed "guessed what is" to "identified".

            Signals an analytic, inquisitive, and curious mind, rather than someone who happened to fortuitously win a game of "pin the minora on the labia".

            Though admittedly that IS a hell of a game when played right..

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            you are a genius great suggestion

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            • bigbananadealer@lemm.eeB [email protected]

              you are a genius great suggestion

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              • Y [email protected]

                To be fair, it would be easier if English had kept the English terms for anatomy.

                But for some reason everyone decided to only use Latin and Greek derived words.

                Like seriously. Nearly every time I look at Wikipedia for anything, English articles only ever use scientific terms hardly anyone will find useful.

                Example:

                Wolf's entire biological taxonomical tree from species to order. Both the translated German Wikipedia title and the English one:

                Species: Wolf <> Wolf

                Genus: Wolf- and Jackal-like <> Canis

                Tribe: True Dogs <> Canini

                Family: Dogs <> Canidae

                Suborder: Doglike <> Caniformia

                Order: Predatory animal <> Carnivora

                Ask someone what "Caniformia" is and most would probably think you're talking about some region on the US West Coast. Ask someone what "Doglike" refers to and most would probably guess reasonably correct.

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                The fact that the entire medical industry does this. I like how ChubbyEmu on Youtube will do the vocabulary resurrection "Hyponatremia. Hypo meaning low, natra meaning sodium, emia, presence in blood. Low sodium presence in blood" and then he'll use the English phrase for the rest of the video. "Because he had low blood sodium..."

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                • almacca@aussie.zoneA [email protected]

                  I couldn't tell you the Latin names for my own bits, either.

                  Edit: that said, I might not know all the street names, but I can still drive you home, and I'm not averse to asking for directions.

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                  Mine's Biggus Dickus.

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                  • Y [email protected]

                    To be fair, it would be easier if English had kept the English terms for anatomy.

                    But for some reason everyone decided to only use Latin and Greek derived words.

                    Like seriously. Nearly every time I look at Wikipedia for anything, English articles only ever use scientific terms hardly anyone will find useful.

                    Example:

                    Wolf's entire biological taxonomical tree from species to order. Both the translated German Wikipedia title and the English one:

                    Species: Wolf <> Wolf

                    Genus: Wolf- and Jackal-like <> Canis

                    Tribe: True Dogs <> Canini

                    Family: Dogs <> Canidae

                    Suborder: Doglike <> Caniformia

                    Order: Predatory animal <> Carnivora

                    Ask someone what "Caniformia" is and most would probably think you're talking about some region on the US West Coast. Ask someone what "Doglike" refers to and most would probably guess reasonably correct.

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                    Anyone who's a bit inquisitive about what words means will notice that "transform" means "changing shape", and that the teeth that look like dog fangs are called "canines". At that point, "caniformia" obviously means "dog-shaped".

                    Specialistic terms don't need to be easy for the layman, but to be explicative for the specialist.
                    I can say that "a complete lattice is the generalisation of the power set of some domain" which is a phrase composed entirely of English words but if you haven't studied anything about abstract algebra you don't knkw what it means, but that is a phrase made for math students, not for any random guy.

                    Also those Latin terms are literally international terms, a Russian biologist will say "Canis lupus" to an Icelandic biologist and they will understand. So you really have nothing to complain about. Just be glad that Linnaeus used an agnostic language for international terminology instead of using his native language (Swedish) like the anglophones do.

                    P.s. you know that Mussolini had all commonly used foreign words and names translated to Italian? And to this day Italian children don't study Francis Bacon and René Descartes, but Francesco Bacone and Renato Cartesio.

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                    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                      The fact that the entire medical industry does this. I like how ChubbyEmu on Youtube will do the vocabulary resurrection "Hyponatremia. Hypo meaning low, natra meaning sodium, emia, presence in blood. Low sodium presence in blood" and then he'll use the English phrase for the rest of the video. "Because he had low blood sodium..."

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                      The entire medical industry does this so that in every language on the planet they are talking about the same thing and know that they are talking about the same thing and that there hasn't been a translation error. Hyponatremia is hyponatremia no matter what language you speak.

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                        To be fair, the majority of women, who have said bits, don't know what they are either, most seem to think it is all vagina.

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                          That's the flappy part!

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                          • B [email protected]

                            The entire medical industry does this so that in every language on the planet they are talking about the same thing and know that they are talking about the same thing and that there hasn't been a translation error. Hyponatremia is hyponatremia no matter what language you speak.

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                            Meanwhile the aviation industry uses English worldwide.

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                              Anyone who's a bit inquisitive about what words means will notice that "transform" means "changing shape", and that the teeth that look like dog fangs are called "canines". At that point, "caniformia" obviously means "dog-shaped".

                              Specialistic terms don't need to be easy for the layman, but to be explicative for the specialist.
                              I can say that "a complete lattice is the generalisation of the power set of some domain" which is a phrase composed entirely of English words but if you haven't studied anything about abstract algebra you don't knkw what it means, but that is a phrase made for math students, not for any random guy.

                              Also those Latin terms are literally international terms, a Russian biologist will say "Canis lupus" to an Icelandic biologist and they will understand. So you really have nothing to complain about. Just be glad that Linnaeus used an agnostic language for international terminology instead of using his native language (Swedish) like the anglophones do.

                              P.s. you know that Mussolini had all commonly used foreign words and names translated to Italian? And to this day Italian children don't study Francis Bacon and René Descartes, but Francesco Bacone and Renato Cartesio.

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                              I don't have an issue with using scientific names in scientific contexts if you intend to publish something international researchers should be able to parse. But just like maths, there is no problem in just... translating names? Imagine if you had to phrase sentences like: "The numerus realis make up a copia infinita." You'd have to translate Latin every time new studens would be taught because most mathematical terms convey a decent amount of information.

                              What I do have an issue with is using these terms anywhere outside of international contexts.

                              A doctor should not tell their patient they have a "humerus" fracture. In German they would take about the upper arm bone.

                              Or imagine if a doctor told you there is an infection in your digitus pedis. Fortunately English didn't replace the term "toes" with its scientific one... YET.

                              Hell, I could even apply this to doctor names in English which require a dictionary for anyone trying to parse them. I had to look up half of them by the way.

                              Children's Doctor <> Pediatrician

                              Women's Doctor <> Gynecologist

                              Tooth Doctor <> Dentist (the least bad in my opinion - at least it's short)

                              Eye Doctor <> Optometrist

                              Neck-Nose-Ear Doctor <> Otorhinolaryngologist (wtf???)

                              Skin Doctor <> Dermatologist

                              Like, surely there must have been (native) English terms for those doctors in the past. It's not like the medical field popped into existence in the 1700's. You can't tell me a 15th century English peasent used Latin/Greek derived names for common specialized doctors.

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                              • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                                Meanwhile the aviation industry uses English worldwide.

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                                Doesn't the computer science industry as well?

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                                • Y [email protected]

                                  I don't have an issue with using scientific names in scientific contexts if you intend to publish something international researchers should be able to parse. But just like maths, there is no problem in just... translating names? Imagine if you had to phrase sentences like: "The numerus realis make up a copia infinita." You'd have to translate Latin every time new studens would be taught because most mathematical terms convey a decent amount of information.

                                  What I do have an issue with is using these terms anywhere outside of international contexts.

                                  A doctor should not tell their patient they have a "humerus" fracture. In German they would take about the upper arm bone.

                                  Or imagine if a doctor told you there is an infection in your digitus pedis. Fortunately English didn't replace the term "toes" with its scientific one... YET.

                                  Hell, I could even apply this to doctor names in English which require a dictionary for anyone trying to parse them. I had to look up half of them by the way.

                                  Children's Doctor <> Pediatrician

                                  Women's Doctor <> Gynecologist

                                  Tooth Doctor <> Dentist (the least bad in my opinion - at least it's short)

                                  Eye Doctor <> Optometrist

                                  Neck-Nose-Ear Doctor <> Otorhinolaryngologist (wtf???)

                                  Skin Doctor <> Dermatologist

                                  Like, surely there must have been (native) English terms for those doctors in the past. It's not like the medical field popped into existence in the 1700's. You can't tell me a 15th century English peasent used Latin/Greek derived names for common specialized doctors.

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                                  Otorhinolaryngologist

                                  Ot- => ear

                                  rhin- => nose

                                  laryng- => throat

                                  or just ENT, I've heard that being used.

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                                    It's so much better to offer a demonstration.

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                                      Doesn't the computer science industry as well?

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                                      Yeah, and for basically the same reason.

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                                      • Y [email protected]

                                        To be fair, it would be easier if English had kept the English terms for anatomy.

                                        But for some reason everyone decided to only use Latin and Greek derived words.

                                        Like seriously. Nearly every time I look at Wikipedia for anything, English articles only ever use scientific terms hardly anyone will find useful.

                                        Example:

                                        Wolf's entire biological taxonomical tree from species to order. Both the translated German Wikipedia title and the English one:

                                        Species: Wolf <> Wolf

                                        Genus: Wolf- and Jackal-like <> Canis

                                        Tribe: True Dogs <> Canini

                                        Family: Dogs <> Canidae

                                        Suborder: Doglike <> Caniformia

                                        Order: Predatory animal <> Carnivora

                                        Ask someone what "Caniformia" is and most would probably think you're talking about some region on the US West Coast. Ask someone what "Doglike" refers to and most would probably guess reasonably correct.

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                                        kept the English terms for anatomy.

                                        Please tell me where I can find out about the original English words for these things.

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                                        • B [email protected]

                                          To be fair, the majority of women, who have said bits, don't know what they are either, most seem to think it is all vagina.

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                                          I mean, colloquially it is.

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