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Germany decides to leave history in the past and prepare for war

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    Italy has a grotesque far right wave RN, they are not the good guys still. Japan is not progressive enough compared to Germany, but I can believe Germany is far removed from being as much as a bad guy compared to the USA & Russia today.

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    Japan has never really reckoned with its past. They were just pacified.

    I judge the country as a whole for this, since they keep electing politicians who continue to do very little to reckon with their past.

    I feel a lot could be gained by apologising to the people and nations for the past, and nothing lost, other than nationalistic pride, bring forced into self reflection, and being genuinely sorry on behalf of the country.

    People who think they shouldn't apologise because it wasn't them personally are stupid, frankly, and standing in the way of reducing tensions.

    Will it fix everything in the region? No. Will it take some of the steam out of the war machine? Probably.

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      Italy has a grotesque far right wave RN, they are not the good guys still. Japan is not progressive enough compared to Germany, but I can believe Germany is far removed from being as much as a bad guy compared to the USA & Russia today.

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      They are not Registered Nurses.

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        Who are you supposed to fight a war to begin with?

        Germany is not the only country in the world spending money on military pensions.

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        Gee I wonder who might be the threat here.

        Germany is not the only country in the world spending money on military pensions.

        No but if they are spending a lot of money on it, by your logic they must have a a very capable military.

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          Italy has a grotesque far right wave RN, they are not the good guys still. Japan is not progressive enough compared to Germany, but I can believe Germany is far removed from being as much as a bad guy compared to the USA & Russia today.

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          I do not want the Italians and Hungarians on my flanks.

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          • misterfrog@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

            Japan has never really reckoned with its past. They were just pacified.

            I judge the country as a whole for this, since they keep electing politicians who continue to do very little to reckon with their past.

            I feel a lot could be gained by apologising to the people and nations for the past, and nothing lost, other than nationalistic pride, bring forced into self reflection, and being genuinely sorry on behalf of the country.

            People who think they shouldn't apologise because it wasn't them personally are stupid, frankly, and standing in the way of reducing tensions.

            Will it fix everything in the region? No. Will it take some of the steam out of the war machine? Probably.

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            Is that why Japan is the only WW II participant who has not fired a shot in anger since August 1945? Japan learned, the rest of you fucks failed miserably and continue to do so.

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            • lordwiggle@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

              It feels a bit weird being on the German side for once, also their track record of succeeding isn't that great, but I love our neighbors and I fully support them.

              I'm just, sad the world is falling into another world war while we also just could be more kind and forgiving towards each other. It would save a lot of lives and leads of pain and agony.

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              We are not the same Germany, with exception to the Prussian military discipline that is buried deep within us. Thanks to morons in DC and Moscow, they are forcing to break the pacifistic dam that we were force to build post WW II.

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                Germany's military, the Bundeswehr, recently got the all-clear for a massive increase in investment after parliament voted to exempt defence spending from strict rules on debt.

                The country's top general has told the BBC the cash boost is urgently needed because he believes Russian aggression won't stop at Ukraine.

                "We are threatened by Russia. We are threatened by Putin. We have to do whatever is needed to deter that," Gen Carsten Breuer says. He warns that Nato should be braced for a possible attack in as little as four years.

                "It's not about how much time I need, it's much more about how much time Putin gives us to be prepared," the defence chief says bluntly. "And the sooner we are prepared the better."

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                What choice do we have? I would focus on improving everything for the regulars and copy the Finnish reserve system.

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                  Is that why Japan is the only WW II participant who has not fired a shot in anger since August 1945? Japan learned, the rest of you fucks failed miserably and continue to do so.

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                  Oh don't get me wrong. The strong adherence to pacifism is laudable. But they have not reckoned with their atrocities committed during and prior world war II. They practically deny them ever happening.

                  Your whataboutism is not appreciated.

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                    USAmerica has made shit loads off war.

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                    And the rest of the world had to pay for it.

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                      Its been increasing no matter who has been in office as long as I have been alive. Its never gone down. So your point to me is meaningless.

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                      It actually went down during Trumps first term. That fucking idiot even failed in the thing he wanted most.

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                        I mean the track record is pretty good as long as you don't just stop at the 20th century.

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                        There were no world wars pre 20th century. But yeah, Germany, Prussia and the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation were pretty successful pre 20th century.

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                          Sad to read that people are ok with this.

                          Stop contributing to rich people bullshit and step out of the system. Every other move will get us all killed.

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                          That suggests you have an alternative, care sharing?

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                            That suggests you have an alternative, care sharing?

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                            Yes. Dying for peace is way better than dying for war. Also stop buying shit, stop paying taxes, build and support alternative networks. Educate yourself and especially the young people around you. Stop building walls, start building bridges. The system only "works" because we believe it does.

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                              for the first time, Germany possibly gets to be the "good guys" in a world war! Quite a turnaround.

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                              World war normally has not good guys. It is that Germany has gone so evil in WW2 that made all others appear the good guys. But in the end they all are evil (countries not people living in them, and no it's not the same).

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                                Yes. Dying for peace is way better than dying for war. Also stop buying shit, stop paying taxes, build and support alternative networks. Educate yourself and especially the young people around you. Stop building walls, start building bridges. The system only "works" because we believe it does.

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                                Oh, you're suggesting an anarcho commune.

                                I'm sure those will work.

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                                  I feel like this is a good idea but I also saw what Germany did to Brazil in that World Cup and there needs to be a plan for them going too far and hurting people just for living.

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                                  And they did hold back that day, after the first 4 goals +/-, just to avoid embarrassing the host that much further.

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                                    Germany, Italy, and Japan go to war against Russia and the US. Only this time the former group is the Good Guys.

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                                    Go back to WW1 and you'll have a hard time pointing to good guys. Even WW2 was heavily sketch. The US was halfway in bed with the Nazis under Hoover and only at odds with Japan because it was encroaching on the British opium trade through Hong Kong and Shanghai.

                                    These wars were, at their hearts, the end consequences of a century of industrial imperialism. The good guys were in Latin America and North Africa and the South Pacific, fighting for their independence and sovereignty.

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                                      Go back to WW1 and you'll have a hard time pointing to good guys. Even WW2 was heavily sketch. The US was halfway in bed with the Nazis under Hoover and only at odds with Japan because it was encroaching on the British opium trade through Hong Kong and Shanghai.

                                      These wars were, at their hearts, the end consequences of a century of industrial imperialism. The good guys were in Latin America and North Africa and the South Pacific, fighting for their independence and sovereignty.

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                                      You’re taking my shitpost comment way too seriously.

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                                        Germany, Italy, and Japan go to war against Russia and the US. Only this time the former group is the Good Guys.

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                                        It's the Terminator 2: Judgement Day of wars.

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                                        • lordwiggle@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                                          There were no world wars pre 20th century. But yeah, Germany, Prussia and the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation were pretty successful pre 20th century.

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                                          They were actually multiple world Wars pre 20th century.

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