Do you browse hexbear or have an account in hexbear?
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If so, what are some misconceptions or seldom known facts?
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If so, what are some misconceptions or seldom known facts?
hexbear is just fine. the "problem" with them is that they are leftists. same with lemmygrad or to a lesser extent lemmy.ml
i predict some people will hate a lot on them here, but you should simply just go talk to them and decide for yourself what you think of it.
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hexbear is just fine. the "problem" with them is that they are leftists. same with lemmygrad or to a lesser extent lemmy.ml
i predict some people will hate a lot on them here, but you should simply just go talk to them and decide for yourself what you think of it.
The problem I have with hexbear leftists is the same that I have with all the other ones and it is because they are all talk and no action.
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The problem I have with hexbear leftists is the same that I have with all the other ones and it is because they are all talk and no action.
most leftists i know have organized, wants to organize, or currently organize in a marxist organization. because thats pretty central to most leftist ideologies.
i understand that might be harder in the us, because its the epicenter of capitalism and all anticommunist propaganda, but thats generally kind of a strawman.
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most leftists i know have organized, wants to organize, or currently organize in a marxist organization. because thats pretty central to most leftist ideologies.
i understand that might be harder in the us, because its the epicenter of capitalism and all anticommunist propaganda, but thats generally kind of a strawman.
Organizing and wanting to organize are two entirely different things.
I want to be a billionaire with a large dick.
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hexbear is just fine. the "problem" with them is that they are leftists. same with lemmygrad or to a lesser extent lemmy.ml
i predict some people will hate a lot on them here, but you should simply just go talk to them and decide for yourself what you think of it.
What a crock. They're "leftists" in the same way that MAGA people are just "free thinkers." I can't say I've ever even see a hexbear user make any leftist comments or points of view. From what I've seen, they mostly push Chinese and Russian government propaganda under with the facade of being 'communist' (again never have I seen any mentions of actual communist economic philosophy from any of their users just anti-western, pro Russian/Chinese government talking points). I don't even have any issue with anti-western sentiment but when you're trying to pretend to be the 'good guy' while being Putin's mouthpiece, similar to Trump, I'm going to call you on your bullshit.
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Organizing and wanting to organize are two entirely different things.
I want to be a billionaire with a large dick.
thats ok, people are allowed to plan ahead for something they can't do right this second, its hard work you need time and energy for. participating in politics doesn't have the same barriers to entry as being born rich or with oversized genitalia.
not having time, energy or money to pursue what they want is sometimes what radicalizes people in the first place.
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What a crock. They're "leftists" in the same way that MAGA people are just "free thinkers." I can't say I've ever even see a hexbear user make any leftist comments or points of view. From what I've seen, they mostly push Chinese and Russian government propaganda under with the facade of being 'communist' (again never have I seen any mentions of actual communist economic philosophy from any of their users just anti-western, pro Russian/Chinese government talking points). I don't even have any issue with anti-western sentiment but when you're trying to pretend to be the 'good guy' while being Putin's mouthpiece, similar to Trump, I'm going to call you on your bullshit.
i'm literally seeing they say leftist things all day every day.
for some reason i knew this thread would derail very quick, hence why i called op to see it for themself and at least get the idea from someone who isnt an anticommunist like yourself.
(also you gotta admit its pretty ironic that trump is uniting the whole world against the us empire while also destroying it from within)
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If so, what are some misconceptions or seldom known facts?
that hexbear supports the entirety of russia. a lot of times i hear stuff like "they don't actually care about queer people since they support russia", which is a gross oversimplification of their views. they hate russia's reactionary politics.
this misconception i think comes from the war in ukraine, in which if ukraine wins, they get to join nato. hexbear considers nato to be an imperialistic organisation that holds power towards a large portion of the world, and therefore, anything that opposes it should receive support, albeit critical.
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that hexbear supports the entirety of russia. a lot of times i hear stuff like "they don't actually care about queer people since they support russia", which is a gross oversimplification of their views. they hate russia's reactionary politics.
this misconception i think comes from the war in ukraine, in which if ukraine wins, they get to join nato. hexbear considers nato to be an imperialistic organisation that holds power towards a large portion of the world, and therefore, anything that opposes it should receive support, albeit critical.
God forbid a sovereign nation can choose its partners...
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i'm literally seeing they say leftist things all day every day.
for some reason i knew this thread would derail very quick, hence why i called op to see it for themself and at least get the idea from someone who isnt an anticommunist like yourself.
(also you gotta admit its pretty ironic that trump is uniting the whole world against the us empire while also destroying it from within)
Authoritarian leftist things.
A lot of people on non ml/grad/hexbear instances are both anti-authoritarian and leftist, so they see hexbear as just as bad as capitalists in terms of being pro-opression
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God forbid a sovereign nation can choose its partners...
wrote last edited by [email protected]Well can Eastern Ukraine?
Because as a "sovereign" nation, Ukraine is an amalgation nation of two bordering existing countries of which the partner organisation NATO's sole existence in question is to be enemies with one of the two bordering countries and thus used deadly violence to suppress any dissent from its Eastern half.
This is in stark contrast to the US full-scale invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, and further invasions of Libya, Syria and Palestine which WERE sovereign nations, where no such dilemma took place.
Bush' full scale invasion of Iraq was based on lies.
Bush' full scale Afghanistan invasion was based on searching a fugitive.
The full scale bombardment of Lybia was because the US did not like Lybia's leader.
Same with Syria.
For Palestine, it's Israel that wants to genocide the country. -
If so, what are some misconceptions or seldom known facts?
Yeah I like some of the hexbear comms and sometimes participate. Vegan Theory Club is an offshoot of Hexbear after the great vegan struggle sessions of 2021 when my account there got banned. We're mainly a two discord servers called Vegan Theory Club and Vegan Home Cooks and we launched the lemmy more recently.
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Well can Eastern Ukraine?
Because as a "sovereign" nation, Ukraine is an amalgation nation of two bordering existing countries of which the partner organisation NATO's sole existence in question is to be enemies with one of the two bordering countries and thus used deadly violence to suppress any dissent from its Eastern half.
This is in stark contrast to the US full-scale invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, and further invasions of Libya, Syria and Palestine which WERE sovereign nations, where no such dilemma took place.
Bush' full scale invasion of Iraq was based on lies.
Bush' full scale Afghanistan invasion was based on searching a fugitive.
The full scale bombardment of Lybia was because the US did not like Lybia's leader.
Same with Syria.
For Palestine, it's Israel that wants to genocide the country.thus used deadly violence to suppress any dissent from its Eastern half.
The violence started when the Russian puppet president walked away from an EU trade deal that he literally campaigned on making, then cracked down on the resulting protests. Then an actual Russian created rebellion started. Calling that "suppressing dissent" is disingenuous as fuck.
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that hexbear supports the entirety of russia. a lot of times i hear stuff like "they don't actually care about queer people since they support russia", which is a gross oversimplification of their views. they hate russia's reactionary politics.
this misconception i think comes from the war in ukraine, in which if ukraine wins, they get to join nato. hexbear considers nato to be an imperialistic organisation that holds power towards a large portion of the world, and therefore, anything that opposes it should receive support, albeit critical.
wrote last edited by [email protected]that hexbear supports the entirety of russia
"critical support" means supporting it critically. literally meaning don't agree with all of what they do/are/stand for. its impressive how focused the haters are on strawmen.
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If so, what are some misconceptions or seldom known facts?
Just lurk there for a while. IMO, biggest misconception is that they're omnicidal lunatics. They have a lot of in-jokes and bits that seem incomprehensible and border on unhinged to an outsider, and sometimes they kinda lean in to the perception. But if you spend enough time there you realise they're very intelligent and deeply empathetic people. The "unlimited genocide on the first world" rhetoric is an expression of frustration rather than actual intent.
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Well can Eastern Ukraine?
Because as a "sovereign" nation, Ukraine is an amalgation nation of two bordering existing countries of which the partner organisation NATO's sole existence in question is to be enemies with one of the two bordering countries and thus used deadly violence to suppress any dissent from its Eastern half.
This is in stark contrast to the US full-scale invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, and further invasions of Libya, Syria and Palestine which WERE sovereign nations, where no such dilemma took place.
Bush' full scale invasion of Iraq was based on lies.
Bush' full scale Afghanistan invasion was based on searching a fugitive.
The full scale bombardment of Lybia was because the US did not like Lybia's leader.
Same with Syria.
For Palestine, it's Israel that wants to genocide the country.Don't forget their unprovoked, full scale bombardment of Yemen
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that hexbear supports the entirety of russia
"critical support" means supporting it critically. literally meaning don't agree with all of what they do/are/stand for. its impressive how focused the haters are on strawmen.
A lot of people have a purist attitude to politics. "Critical support" is a vital part in understanding these positions of Hexbear and others, that one can support a side of a conflict and still be critical of it. Geo-politics isn't a simple binary. No two groups will perfectly align, but that doesn't mean they can't see mutual lines of benefit despite their disagreement. For example, just because someone supports Ukraine doesn't mean they have to defend everything their government does, such as supporting the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion. It would be absurd to assert that! Similarly, it would be absurd to tell the communists still crying about 1989 that they support the entirety of the capitalist Russian Federation, the same RF that destroyed many of the gains the USSR made for both countries by enabling oligarchs to loot the place and plummet life expectancy.
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Just lurk there for a while. IMO, biggest misconception is that they're omnicidal lunatics. They have a lot of in-jokes and bits that seem incomprehensible and border on unhinged to an outsider, and sometimes they kinda lean in to the perception. But if you spend enough time there you realise they're very intelligent and deeply empathetic people. The "unlimited genocide on the first world" rhetoric is an expression of frustration rather than actual intent.
If they're deeply empathetic people, then why do so many of them support the Ukraine invasion and want them to roll over and give their country away to Putin?
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If so, what are some misconceptions or seldom known facts?
wrote last edited by [email protected]I used to have an account. I was an old /r/chapo user before it got shut down.
A dipshit admin got mad when I referenced ridiculous drama that reflected badly on how the site was (and probably still is) being run, insisted to me that it didn't happen, banned before I could even post a link or screenshot demonstrating it happened, purged my entire comment and submission history (mostly news and longer pieces I found interesting, nothing even remotely rule breaking or controversial) then proceeded to monitor the creation of new accounts to ban any usernames similar to mine as soon as they appeared.
All of the exact behaviour that would have been endlessly made fun of for being so extremely online and extremely pathetic on the old subreddit.
That admin/mod who did that is now also banned and their posts also purged lmfao. Hexbear in a nutshell.
