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Do you browse hexbear or have an account in hexbear?

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    If they're deeply empathetic people, then why do so many of them support the Ukraine invasion and want them to roll over and give their country away to Putin?

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    Wholesome "every single motherfucking one of you should fucking die in a meat grinder because I'm very upset at what Rachael Maddow told me in 2016" moment

    Here's an idea! If you have so much empathy for them, take their place! Spare someone kidnapped off the street against their will the horrible death you want them to suffer on your behalf! You're the one braying for blood, you go spill it.

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      God forbid a sovereign nation can choose its partners...

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      Always very annoying listening to dipshits for whom history began in 2022 lament on how Ukraine's sovereignty was violated and they should be allowed to align themselves without interference. Just as long as they don't align against the west in which case you perform a violent coup on the behalf of neo-nazis who begin campaigns of ethnic cleansing.

      But that didn't happen doesn't matter.

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        I used to have an account. I was an old /r/chapo user before it got shut down.

        A dipshit admin got mad when I referenced ridiculous drama that reflected badly on how the site was (and probably still is) being run, insisted to me that it didn't happen, banned before I could even post a link or screenshot demonstrating it happened, purged my entire comment and submission history (mostly news and longer pieces I found interesting, nothing even remotely rule breaking or controversial) then proceeded to monitor the creation of new accounts to ban any usernames similar to mine as soon as they appeared.

        All of the exact behaviour that would have been endlessly made fun of for being so extremely online and extremely pathetic on the old subreddit.

        That admin/mod who did that is now also banned and their posts also purged lmfao. Hexbear in a nutshell.

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        When someone is banned, their posts are automatically deleted, it's not some crazy admin obsession to 'purge your entire history'.

        This story does appear to be "an admin abused their power to ban me, then that admin got banned for doing so". Which seems pretty standard to me.

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        • antioutsideaktion@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

          Always very annoying listening to dipshits for whom history began in 2022 lament on how Ukraine's sovereignty was violated and they should be allowed to align themselves without interference. Just as long as they don't align against the west in which case you perform a violent coup on the behalf of neo-nazis who begin campaigns of ethnic cleansing.

          But that didn't happen doesn't matter.

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          There is no scenario where a country can unilaterally help themselves to the internationally recognized territory of another. That this simple truth is even in question to you entirely dismisses any point you are trying to make.

          Russia has no claim in any way shape or form to any territory that is not currently internationally recognized as theirs, doesn't matter if the country was in the SU, Warsaw pact, russian imperial sphere, has russians living there, has russia feel "encroached upon", or any other imbecilic pretense apologists like to bring forward. It isn't theirs.

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          • C [email protected]

            If they're deeply empathetic people, then why do so many of them support the Ukraine invasion and want them to roll over and give their country away to Putin?

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            This is not what "so many of them support" and I know you source a highly upvoted post to prove otherwise because it doesn't exist.

            Hexbear oppose Putin, they just also recognise Ukraine and NATO also behave very shittily, sometimes moreso.

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              thus used deadly violence to suppress any dissent from its Eastern half.

              The violence started when the Russian puppet president walked away from an EU trade deal that he literally campaigned on making, then cracked down on the resulting protests. Then an actual Russian created rebellion started. Calling that "suppressing dissent" is disingenuous as fuck.

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              Like it or not, the reality is that regions in the East of Ukraine were very much on record as supporting Yakunovych, and closer relations with Russia, for decades. There's only one reason the Minsk agreements fell through, and it's because they did not want to give eastern regions votes on autonomy.

              If the other half of your country coup'd your president, half-outlawed your language and ignored the political will of your half of the country, you might have a right to be upset and label that suppression.

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                There is no scenario where a country can unilaterally help themselves to the internationally recognized territory of another. That this simple truth is even in question to you entirely dismisses any point you are trying to make.

                Russia has no claim in any way shape or form to any territory that is not currently internationally recognized as theirs, doesn't matter if the country was in the SU, Warsaw pact, russian imperial sphere, has russians living there, has russia feel "encroached upon", or any other imbecilic pretense apologists like to bring forward. It isn't theirs.

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                Burgerland occupies Hawaii and part of Cuba just to name a couple of places, but sure it's defending sovereignty of a nation where it overthrew the legitimate government in a violent coup. 🤡

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                  What a crock. They're "leftists" in the same way that MAGA people are just "free thinkers." I can't say I've ever even see a hexbear user make any leftist comments or points of view. From what I've seen, they mostly push Chinese and Russian government propaganda under with the facade of being 'communist' (again never have I seen any mentions of actual communist economic philosophy from any of their users just anti-western, pro Russian/Chinese government talking points). I don't even have any issue with anti-western sentiment but when you're trying to pretend to be the 'good guy' while being Putin's mouthpiece, similar to Trump, I'm going to call you on your bullshit.

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                  Hexbear oppose Putin while frequently talking about theory and communist philosophy. You clearly are just talking absolute rubbish.

                  Smart money is on you having been banned there for being some form of ass.

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                    Authoritarian leftist things.

                    A lot of people on non ml/grad/hexbear instances are both anti-authoritarian and leftist, so they see hexbear as just as bad as capitalists in terms of being pro-opression

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                    "Authoritarian" is a meaningless descriptor. All states are authoritarian, what matters is which class is in control and thus exerting its authority. States controlled by the working class are demonized in the west as uniquely "authoritarian" because the corporate owners of the media cannot freely act as they please in the markets of "authoritarian" countries.

                    The US media is more than willing to praise Batista, Pinochet, even Hitler until later on, as long as they work with US Capitalists. Meanwhile, any country that attempts to assert its own sovereignty is immediately demonized and/or crushed via militant means.

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                    • yogthos@lemmy.mlY [email protected]

                      Burgerland occupies Hawaii and part of Cuba just to name a couple of places, but sure it's defending sovereignty of a nation where it overthrew the legitimate government in a violent coup. 🤡

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                      BUT WHAT ABOUT THE STATES GUYS, THE STATES

                      Fuck them, i have no love for them either.

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                        Authoritarian leftist things.

                        A lot of people on non ml/grad/hexbear instances are both anti-authoritarian and leftist, so they see hexbear as just as bad as capitalists in terms of being pro-opression

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                        Hexbear has plenty anarchists. Left unity is a strictly enforced rule and has like 20 dedicated emotes.

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                        • omegalemmy@discuss.onlineO [email protected]

                          If so, what are some misconceptions or seldom known facts?

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                          I have an account on Hexbear, I also mod their [email protected] community, which has been growing steadily. It's always wild to me to read what people think goes on at the site because, in my engagement with folks, it's clear that everyone is just someone trying to get by in this crazy world we live in. All this talk about "tankies" or whatever, is pretty "online" behavior, and Hexbear often appears to me the least online by comparison. Sure, we're active on the site, but I don't get the sense that many people are wildly active outside the site, many people have negative views on most social media and have no interest in it.

                          The other thing that people never seem to notice is just how active our [email protected] community is, and just how generous the users can be. There is a real sense of community on Hexbear that I struggle to find on the wider internet. That probably has a lot to do with the relative size of the user base.

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                          • cowbee@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                            "Authoritarian" is a meaningless descriptor. All states are authoritarian, what matters is which class is in control and thus exerting its authority. States controlled by the working class are demonized in the west as uniquely "authoritarian" because the corporate owners of the media cannot freely act as they please in the markets of "authoritarian" countries.

                            The US media is more than willing to praise Batista, Pinochet, even Hitler until later on, as long as they work with US Capitalists. Meanwhile, any country that attempts to assert its own sovereignty is immediately demonized and/or crushed via militant means.

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                            What made you think I thought the US isn't authoritarian?

                            Authoritarian means the government deciding what people can do or say beyond preventing actual harm to others, or causing harm to their subjects to promote the government's interest to the detriment of the people.

                            Overthrowing other governments is imperialism, not authoritarianism - I'd define thr latter as largely internal, exceptions being eg. Singapore's laws applying to Singaporean citizens and residents even when they're outside of Singapore.

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                              When someone is banned, their posts are automatically deleted, it's not some crazy admin obsession to 'purge your entire history'.

                              This story does appear to be "an admin abused their power to ban me, then that admin got banned for doing so". Which seems pretty standard to me.

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                              When someone is banned, their posts are automatically deleted, it’s not some crazy admin obsession to ‘purge your entire history’.

                              Nope. That's not how it worked at the time. I even still have screenshots of being able to see banned users posts still there from around this time. My comments specifically showed "removed by mod". I just checked and I can still see a post by an alt I made shortly after being banned (which was also banned).

                              This story does appear to be “an admin abused their power to ban me, then that admin got banned for being caught abusing their power”. Which is not uncommon in online communities.

                              That is not remotely what happened. The person in question continued to be a mod for some time. Their eventual banning had nothing to do with what happened to me or others.

                              There were multiple mods acting this way around this timeframe against many users on the site, so they'd all have had to ban themselves for the same behaviour.

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                              • hamid@vegantheoryclub.orgH [email protected]

                                Yeah I like some of the hexbear comms and sometimes participate. Vegan Theory Club is an offshoot of Hexbear after the great vegan struggle sessions of 2021 when my account there got banned. We're mainly a two discord servers called Vegan Theory Club and Vegan Home Cooks and we launched the lemmy more recently.

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                                Just wanted to say, I like the posters from Vegan Theory Club, it's a cool place.

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                                  I used to have an account. I was an old /r/chapo user before it got shut down.

                                  A dipshit admin got mad when I referenced ridiculous drama that reflected badly on how the site was (and probably still is) being run, insisted to me that it didn't happen, banned before I could even post a link or screenshot demonstrating it happened, purged my entire comment and submission history (mostly news and longer pieces I found interesting, nothing even remotely rule breaking or controversial) then proceeded to monitor the creation of new accounts to ban any usernames similar to mine as soon as they appeared.

                                  All of the exact behaviour that would have been endlessly made fun of for being so extremely online and extremely pathetic on the old subreddit.

                                  That admin/mod who did that is now also banned and their posts also purged lmfao. Hexbear in a nutshell.

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                                  You have 4 removed comments before the ban, the rest of your history is still very visible in your profile, so they didn't purge your account, they removed a few comments, which is why it says, "removed by mod". It's funny reading your removed comments. The downvote removal is looked back on as a pretty good change. I've not used the site when it had downvotes, but frankly, I like that they're gone. I don't even know what the "main" issue is, and I've never heard anyone talk about it. The site has never struck me as a "Chapo" site, even though I know that is its origins. I've listened to the Chapo pod before, not for me, honestly. Frankly, seems that separating from the Chapo brand was the right choice.

                                  Anyway, 4 years is a long time to hold a grudge.

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                                  • omegalemmy@discuss.onlineO [email protected]

                                    If so, what are some misconceptions or seldom known facts?

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                                    I accidentally subscribed to one and it was filled with tankies acting like they were the true and righteous moral bastions of society while espousing blatantly ableist ideas and pure wishful thinking rewrites of history. I left and blocked that community.

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                                    • amazingwizard@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

                                      I have an account on Hexbear, I also mod their [email protected] community, which has been growing steadily. It's always wild to me to read what people think goes on at the site because, in my engagement with folks, it's clear that everyone is just someone trying to get by in this crazy world we live in. All this talk about "tankies" or whatever, is pretty "online" behavior, and Hexbear often appears to me the least online by comparison. Sure, we're active on the site, but I don't get the sense that many people are wildly active outside the site, many people have negative views on most social media and have no interest in it.

                                      The other thing that people never seem to notice is just how active our [email protected] community is, and just how generous the users can be. There is a real sense of community on Hexbear that I struggle to find on the wider internet. That probably has a lot to do with the relative size of the user base.

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                                      The term “tankie” exists independently and prior to the popularization of the internet

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                                        The term “tankie” exists independently and prior to the popularization of the internet

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                                        The resurgent use of the word "tankie" is a very online anti-communist pejorative, akin to "commie," "pinko," etc. I have heard the word "tankie" maybe once in real life.

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                                          I accidentally subscribed to one and it was filled with tankies acting like they were the true and righteous moral bastions of society while espousing blatantly ableist ideas and pure wishful thinking rewrites of history. I left and blocked that community.

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                                          Ableist ideas? Where? Report those, ableism is a bannable offense on Hexbear. Yea, there are a lot of Communists on Hexbear, same with a lot of Lemmy, so that makes sense.

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