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      Pleasant memories. The asshole next to blew as hard as he could point blank to my ear. Fuck I hate those things.

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        Now that its 10 years since I last set foot in a school, I hold three opinions about the public school system (in Germany; check yourself what applies to your country):

        1. Schools are an institution where adolescents are detained during the day, so their parent(s) can work and not worry about their children setting fire to the city.
        2. A lot of the curriculum doesn’t prepare you for life. And it’s not meant to. Instead it forces you to engage with a topic for a longish period of time without the possibility to quit. That is supposed to allow you to see if you find the problems that topic poses interesting and if you like finding solutions for these problems.
        3. Schools should put more emphasis on life skills.
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          If you’re wondering, Why recorders? — there are three reasons:

          • They’re portable.
          • Recorders in decent enough quality can be cheaply produced, so even low-income children get to play one. Compare that with a guitar where 30$ gets you a piece of wood that detunes as soon as you lay eyes on it. Not great for practicing.
          • Recorders have an easily memorizable fingering scheme that allows you to quickly pick up the C Major scale. Compare this with a guitar where you need to remember for each string individually which frets have the notes of the scale.
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            If you’re wondering, Why recorders? — there are three reasons:

            • They’re portable.
            • Recorders in decent enough quality can be cheaply produced, so even low-income children get to play one. Compare that with a guitar where 30$ gets you a piece of wood that detunes as soon as you lay eyes on it. Not great for practicing.
            • Recorders have an easily memorizable fingering scheme that allows you to quickly pick up the C Major scale. Compare this with a guitar where you need to remember for each string individually which frets have the notes of the scale.
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            You don't need to remember for each string individually which frets have the notes of the scale on a guitar. If you know where the base note is, there is exactly one pattern for minor and one for major.

            Guitars are very hard to play for kids because the strings are so thin that they hurt after very few minutes.

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              Did anyone here watch American Pie? I thought the benefit of this instrument is clear from that movie.

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                For what it’s worth, as someone who graduated highschool in Utah (one of the shittest US states in terms of funding and education) I learned the recorder in Elementary school and was required to take a financial literacy class in highschool to graduate. True, that class taught now-useless skills like how to write a check, but it also taught me about 401Ks/Roth IRAs, how to file taxes, managing credit scores and lines of credit, mortgages and debt, budgeting, and a bunch of other skills besides. I’m not sure how standard this is across the US, but I can’t imagine it’s too uncommon given that it was a shitty small town high school in a deep red state. Hell, I’ve seen memes like this posted by people who graduated in my year and it always perplexes me because I know for a fact they had to take that class.

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                  Did anyone here watch American Pie? I thought the benefit of this instrument is clear from that movie.

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                  Isn't she using a "flûte traversière" in that movie (not sure of the English name, "sideways flute"?).

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                    For what it’s worth, as someone who graduated highschool in Utah (one of the shittest US states in terms of funding and education) I learned the recorder in Elementary school and was required to take a financial literacy class in highschool to graduate. True, that class taught now-useless skills like how to write a check, but it also taught me about 401Ks/Roth IRAs, how to file taxes, managing credit scores and lines of credit, mortgages and debt, budgeting, and a bunch of other skills besides. I’m not sure how standard this is across the US, but I can’t imagine it’s too uncommon given that it was a shitty small town high school in a deep red state. Hell, I’ve seen memes like this posted by people who graduated in my year and it always perplexes me because I know for a fact they had to take that class.

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                    At my shitty red state high school financial literacy was a "life skill class" and only meant for those not looking to attend college.

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                      Isn't she using a "flûte traversière" in that movie (not sure of the English name, "sideways flute"?).

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                      Possible, don't remember exactly. But the principle should be the same, right?

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                        Possible, don't remember exactly. But the principle should be the same, right?

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                        Yes yes, though I always imagined she had to take it apart because the parts you finger would definitely be a no-go.

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                          Did anyone here watch American Pie? I thought the benefit of this instrument is clear from that movie.

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                          That is a flute. This is a recorder. It's just not the same putting it up there.

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                            You don't need to remember for each string individually which frets have the notes of the scale on a guitar. If you know where the base note is, there is exactly one pattern for minor and one for major.

                            Guitars are very hard to play for kids because the strings are so thin that they hurt after very few minutes.

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                            Guitars are very hard to play for kids because the strings are so thin that they hurt after very few minutes.

                            That’s a better reason.

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                              At my shitty red state high school financial literacy was a "life skill class" and only meant for those not looking to attend college.

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                              Wild. That seems incredibly stupid, but incredibly stupid is very on-brand for the US education system lmao.

                              I’ll take that to mean my experience was very much not standard, then.

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                                OP yearns for the boot of capital

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                                  For what it’s worth, as someone who graduated highschool in Utah (one of the shittest US states in terms of funding and education) I learned the recorder in Elementary school and was required to take a financial literacy class in highschool to graduate. True, that class taught now-useless skills like how to write a check, but it also taught me about 401Ks/Roth IRAs, how to file taxes, managing credit scores and lines of credit, mortgages and debt, budgeting, and a bunch of other skills besides. I’m not sure how standard this is across the US, but I can’t imagine it’s too uncommon given that it was a shitty small town high school in a deep red state. Hell, I’ve seen memes like this posted by people who graduated in my year and it always perplexes me because I know for a fact they had to take that class.

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                                  The number of times I have to explain to people here in California that are my age that they did in fact take financial literacy, or that they were in fact taught skills like what to do during pregnancy is unfortunately too high. Tons of people like to talk about what schools need without realizing that it has it and they just didn’t pay attention.

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                                    They did teach us financial literacy.

                                    If you found it important as a reasonably intelligent adult you could teach yourself basic financial literacy in an afternoon.

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                                      Pleasant memories. The asshole next to blew as hard as he could point blank to my ear. Fuck I hate those things.

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                                      I got detention for a week because when one of my classmates did this to me I hit him with mine.

                                      No ragerts.

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                                        My guy, they're 6 to 8. It's not time to learn that mess

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                                          I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't know of any 1st grade classes teaching financial literacy, nor high school classes focusing on how to play a recorder.

                                          I did have a few weeks that focus on domestic finances in 8th grade. That almost nobody paid attention to. So there's at least one school that did both 20 years ago...

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