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Looking back I'm actually confused why this was even a thing. Did Big Recorder have deals with schools to push this? Is Big Recorder a thing?
We only ever used them for like 3 weeks and then it was on to the next thing. Haven't touched it since.
I wasn't given an instrument to learn to read music, also I was taught the Kodály method, which is quite bad for this purpose, also we were taught the doremi instead of the proper letter names of the notes for years, which is not absolute, thus I never learned how to read music that way. When I learned the guitar, I learned sheet music so well I can still read it, although not at a fast pace anymore.
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Watched the whole thing, just lovely
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If you’re wondering, Why recorders? — there are three reasons:
- They’re portable.
- Recorders in decent enough quality can be cheaply produced, so even low-income children get to play one. Compare that with a guitar where 30$ gets you a piece of wood that detunes as soon as you lay eyes on it. Not great for practicing.
- Recorders have an easily memorizable fingering scheme that allows you to quickly pick up the C Major scale. Compare this with a guitar where you need to remember for each string individually which frets have the notes of the scale.
It was a gateway instrument into learning the clarinet then eventually the alto sax, then baritone sax for me, so I really appreciate it.
That being said, financial literacy is super important. Wasn't home-ec supposed to teach us that??
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Obviously children have a finite amount of time to study without impacting their own agency too much.
I always found music class to be like a break between other classes. If you would've tried to teach me finances in the same timeslot, I would not have learned half of it.
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My guy, they're 6 to 8. It's not time to learn that mess
Yeah kids aren't going to engage with something like that if they've never seen a bill in their lives, or even had their own money to spend. Music is universal, and 6 to 8 is exactly the age when they can start developing talent.
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I remember how in 6th grade my (i assume) well meaning teacher decided to have a theme week where we were to pair up, boy and girl and pretend to be a couple and figure out budgeting, finding rent prices for apartments and what kinds of jobs we could have.
That was the week I unlocked existential anxiety that never went away lol. Didn't help that every adult in my life told me to not worry about it and that it would take many years before budgeting like an adult would be relevant for me.
There also weren't any further classes about this type of stuff so I just walked around from age 12 and onward panicking about how I would fail at life because I was bad at math.
Weirdly enough I still remember that the boy I was paired up with insisted we should have a cat and that we should call it Møffe. I remember that our budget was very bad and full of holes and our teacher would come over from time to time. "What about the electric bill? What about the water and heating bill? Remember taxes." Every time she would remind us of something we had overlooked or missed, it felt like my nervous system was being electrocuted.
Pretty hardcore to just throw this type of assignment at 12 year olds with no warning and then never speak of it again.
As an adult I am terrified of spending money on anything that isn't food or bills. My boyfriend constantly has to remind me that we are financially safe because I feel like we could end up on the streets any moment. It's not all a result of that one workshop, but it planted the seeds for that anxiety to grow and blossom into what it is today.
I think a budgeting workshop would be a great idea for older kids who are approaching adulthood and are more ready for it. But holy shit, don't do that to actual children who can't even grasp the concept of taxes and rent money yet.
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I’ve had co-workers refuse a pay rise because they thought they would lose money due to higher taxes.
Music as a lesson has never once been beneficial outside of a classroom.
One skill is useful for life, the other is useful for the 3 people who intend to go on to study music.
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These things put me off music for years. Maybe next time start us with an instrument that doesn’t sound like total shit in beginners hands and which stinks of antiseptic.
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A guitar
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Teaching finance is important, but being exposed to arts or different subjects like trade can be beneficial. A well rounded education to maybe spark an interest. Just think we had a whole world of accountants.
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Am I the on,y one who never had to play a recorder?
I think it's an American thing, maybe? I don't think I ever played the recorder in school. My only experiences with the recorder was as a toy instrument that you'd get from souvenir shops. I didn't know the recorder was supposedly a serious instrument until my early adulthood. Always thought it was a joke toy pretending to be a flute. It was way below the kazoo in my mind.
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I remember how in 6th grade my (i assume) well meaning teacher decided to have a theme week where we were to pair up, boy and girl and pretend to be a couple and figure out budgeting, finding rent prices for apartments and what kinds of jobs we could have.
That was the week I unlocked existential anxiety that never went away lol. Didn't help that every adult in my life told me to not worry about it and that it would take many years before budgeting like an adult would be relevant for me.
There also weren't any further classes about this type of stuff so I just walked around from age 12 and onward panicking about how I would fail at life because I was bad at math.
Weirdly enough I still remember that the boy I was paired up with insisted we should have a cat and that we should call it Møffe. I remember that our budget was very bad and full of holes and our teacher would come over from time to time. "What about the electric bill? What about the water and heating bill? Remember taxes." Every time she would remind us of something we had overlooked or missed, it felt like my nervous system was being electrocuted.
Pretty hardcore to just throw this type of assignment at 12 year olds with no warning and then never speak of it again.
As an adult I am terrified of spending money on anything that isn't food or bills. My boyfriend constantly has to remind me that we are financially safe because I feel like we could end up on the streets any moment. It's not all a result of that one workshop, but it planted the seeds for that anxiety to grow and blossom into what it is today.
I think a budgeting workshop would be a great idea for older kids who are approaching adulthood and are more ready for it. But holy shit, don't do that to actual children who can't even grasp the concept of taxes and rent money yet.
Just remember, Møffe will be with you even if you have to go live in the street!
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What instrument doesn't sound like total shit in beginner's hands? A keyboard?
The violin ofc.
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I remember my dad telling me it was a waste of time, back then, I didn't listen
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Just remember, Møffe will be with you even if you have to go live in the street!
I think my partner in that workshop got Møffe when we split. He seemed more attached to him while I was too busy contemplating my existence.
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I think my partner in that workshop got Møffe when we split. He seemed more attached to him while I was too busy contemplating my existence.
Oh darn, I understand your stress better now.
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why the fuck are you talking about recorders, it's a flute....? (searched for it just right now and found out that's the name in English and it doesn't make sense at all, but OK)
Anyway, they're cheap, light, accessible, straightforward: no complex skill required to blow or get a correct tone.
Flute got me into reading music. Terrible teachers unable to comprehend that a teenager needs something fun to play instead of boring music study books got me out of it.that's the name in English and it doesn't make sense at all
Faut arrêter avec le "c'est pas comme en français du coup c'est mal"
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Ya'll won't be laughing when people are paying me good money to get the snakes out of their cities.
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They could have also taught us how to change a tire, or make a casserole, or which fork is the salad fork. Ultimately our parents should be teaching us some stuff... but if the parents didn't learn it (maybe because ma and pa simply didn't have the patience to teach) then we start running into issues, and eventually we end out with a generation who can barely make mac and cheese from a box, so they get it doordashed.
