Tutanota / Mailbox.org?

[noble_bacon@lemmy.ml]

Take a look into Posteo if having a custom domain is something you can live without.

[iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee]

Posteo
Wow...This one seems to be a very good one as well. How come it's not even mentioned in privacytools.io or privacyguides.org?

[pmk@lemmy.sdf.org]

You also get SMTP with posteo, if that is important to you.

[noble_bacon@lemmy.ml]

Not sure.

It's not as popular, but i use it with my own PGP keys & Thunderbird and it's great!

[jherazob@beehaw.org]

The GDPR ensures there's no mailing list you cannot unsubscribe from, if they won't let you it's not a good thing

[iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee]

With that you mean it's standard access IMAP/SMTP from any client you want, as opposed to Proton/Tutanota and their custom apps right? Yeah, I prefer a standard protocol and my own app.

[ohvenus_baby@lemmy.ml]

Posteo rocks.

[easily3667@lemmus.org]

Disroot is fine

[easily3667@lemmus.org]

Protonmail uses pgp under the hood. Their encryption was only ever within proton accounts because they had an automatic key lookup system. You can of course add your own keys, but most didn't. Still pgp.

[easily3667@lemmus.org]

That's true once it's received, but it's still processed by proton and now we know they are pro-nazi so who knows what they would do.

You can avoid this with pgp as stated (default for proton to proton messages), but I don't think it's worth considering the at rest encryption at proton anymore.

[easily3667@lemmus.org]

This is accurate

[ohvenus_baby@lemmy.ml]

Its simple as hell, out of the way. Its a no fuss email that seems to have all the features you'd want. It just works. Carbon neutral and all the good stuff we all like to boot.

[Guest]

So any concern about mailbox.Org severs being in Berlin and Germany being apart of the 14eyes alliance?

[Guest]

I'm just teaching myself - maybe good practice.

I have concerns about mailbox being under jurisdiction of 14eyes.

[pmk@lemmy.sdf.org]

Yes. You can get it with proton too, but you need your own domain for that iirc.

[Guest]

Oh, I see
Well, as long as they still offer the cheaper option I need, I don't really care, it's not the prettiest sales tactic but at least I can still chose

[Guest]

Tutanota for max privacy (no imap/pop3 support). Other services for using IMAP/POP3

[rcbrk@lemmy.ml]

What ideally I’d like is some sort of good encrypted email [...], which can achieve decent Android integration. Proton apps are pretty useless to that effect [...]

Don't need provider-specific apps if their services use standard protocols:

• IMAP: Fair Email or K-9 Mail(/Thunderbird)
• CalDAV: DAVx⁵

[iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee]

Sigh...right. But people DO need email. For banks. For taxes. For governments, healthcare, and lots of other crap.

So yeah, I'm skipping the whole "encrypted mailbox no-knowledge", since it's both cumbersome and useless unless anyone around you ALSO uses it (otherwise, those super private emails can be way more easily intercepted during transit than in your inbox anyway).

I just want some attempt at privacy from some EU nation while keeping some decent interoperability.

[azalty@jlai.lu]

SimpleX becomes a pain when using multiple devices