Norwegian tourist claims he was 'strip searched' before being denied entry to US over JD Vance meme on phone
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“They threatened me with a minimum fine of $5,000 or five years in prison if I refused to provide the password to my phone.”
Jesus Christ. Reminds me of Eastern Europe in the early 90s.
It’s the blimp scene from Indiana jones, except he says “no password” instead of “no papers” after he throws the guy out of the blimp.
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By that logic, you aren't the only person in the world and a not so small amount of people are all about that life.
...you seriously think a lot of people are interested in murdering random people? That it's the existence of the State that keeps people from just being serial killers? Nah.
If the numberless facts which can be brought forward to support this view are taken into account, we may safely say that mutual aid is as much a law of animal life as mutual struggle, but that, as a factor of evolution, it most probably has a far greater importance, inasmuch as it favours the development of such habits and characters as insure the maintenance and further development of the species, together with the greatest amount of welfare and enjoyment of life for the individual, with the least waste of energy.
Peter Kropotkin, Mutual Aid; A Factor of Evolution
I.e. sure you're going to get some serial killers and anarchist societies will have to account for them, but the vast majority of people are good enough.
A racist Anarchist? Well I never!
What are you smoking and can I have some?!?
Acknowledging the very real reality that people from Iran and Palestine are more likely to be in a rough state of mind because they're currently being fucking bombed into oblivion is not fucking racism. Similarly, people living in the inner city or on reservations who are constantly being kicked in the teeth by the system at every step of their lives might are more likely to be in a rough state of mind than I am in my relatively privileged position.
Acknowledging my privilege relative to them is not fucking racist.
We have much to be proud of in Canada.
Yo my sister lived in Canada for several years. She has indigenous descent and she faced so much fucking racism for even looking First Nations.
Feel free to explain how one "abolishes" a country full of people born and raised here from all over the world.
Abolish the State through a diversity of tactics including peaceful protest, nonviolent and violent direct action, and mass mobilization. Convince people (like you) to also break their mental chains (like attachment to your nation). Establish alternative, prefigurative systems in opposition to hierarchy and domination with built-in safeguards to ensure consent of the community these systems serve.
I am not ashamed to be Canadian, and I am proud to be Canadian.
Okay the only people who should be ashamed of their country are people who are currently proud of it. If you need to feel shame to break this chain then please do.
Regardless of the history of both.
Really? Because... that's kinda important!
We also do a lot of good around the world.
No Canada does not. Canada is in lockstep with America, providing material support for the War on Terror and complicity in the Gaza Genocide, just to name a few.
There is a reason why we have so many allies.
Because Canada is in lockstep with America and the Canadian government has competent diplomats. Also... America has a lot of allies! That's not a good measure of how beneficial a country is to the world.
I choose to live here because I like my country. I am proud of that choice. Just like you choose to live in the US and play pretend freedom fighter.
Lol I absolutely do not pretend to be a freedom fighter because I'm too tired to fight. But I'd rather be a hypocrite than completely wrong.
And no, I absolutely do not choose to live here. If I left the United States for another country, I would blow through the couple hundred bucks in my bank account (which I don't even think I can access abroad? My bank will lock my card if I start using it across the country, let alone the world) because I wouldn't be allowed to get work, then get my ass deported back to the US. At least in the US I have people I can ask for money, and I can get work. Crucially... I'm not gonna dox myself, but I'm working to get the credentials to be able to get the fuck out of here and into almost any country in a way that is sustainable.
To be completely clear: Obviously, "Anarchist". That is exactly what people say when they have nothing to be proud of in their country.
No lol. Americans are unfortunately super proud of their country. Patriotism gets more fashionable as things get worse.
But also: in my view, there's nothing to be proud of in any country. Pride in your community? Pride in your culture? Subculture? Heritage? Family? Friends? Your own achievements? Sure thing! But the "nation" is a falsehood organized around the State, run by your local warlords in service of capitalism.
Definitionally, I believe that no one should be proud of their nation. Definitionally, nationalism is bad. I literally don't care about what quality of life you lead in that nation, because without the violence of the State and the capitalists it serves, you and your neighbors would be better off without the State.
You are ignorant, bigoted, and not worth further time. Give your head a shake.
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You are ignorant, bigoted, and not worth further time. Give your head a shake.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yeah because being anti-nationalist is so bigoted /s
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I wish your friend safety in their travels!
Lol what degree of douchebag would downvote your comment, holy cow LOL.
I sincerely commend the positivity and kindness you've been bringing to this thread with warmly inviting people to flee to Canada.
Edit: Although maybe you're being a bit harsh further down.
It doesn't have to be so personal? People are just discussing stuff. Let's not let the decisions of stupid men in power deter us from productive discussion.I’m a Christian Anarchist myself...
Yeah... Nah...
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You are ignorant, bigoted, and not worth further time. Give your head a shake.
Like seriously I'd like to know so I don't repeat it: which part of any of my replies is bigoted?
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What kind of dumb fuck still goes to the US for tourism?
Norwegians have this fanciful notion that all European and north American countries are essentially the same and that nothing is as bad as it's made out to be by those hysterical foreigners. This requires some degree of cognitive dissonance because they also feel like there is no country as good as Norway and everyone must really want to be Norwegian.
So he probably assumed it wasn't nearly as bad over there as people are saying and if he was to get into difficulty he could just say he's Norwegian and people would just let him off because everyone loves Norwegians. Also he's 21 so not terribly smart yet.
Not to mention that he's probably never been in a situation where a border control person takes your phone.
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You aren't trapped though! Come to Canada!
And this is how we achieved a population greater than what our housing can support. Unless you’re ready to fork over 1200-2k a month for a 1 bedroom & 1 bathroom then I would advise against this.
People are already forking over that kind of money in the US, and have been for years.
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Like seriously I'd like to know so I don't repeat it: which part of any of my replies is bigoted?
2 comments 6 minutes apart on the same comment. Thirsty much?
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2 comments 6 minutes apart on the same comment. Thirsty much?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yeah I actually am thirsty to know what specifically made you think I'm bigoted. We can agree to disagree about everything else but being called a bigot is pretty serious
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You aren't trapped though! Come to Canada!
And this is how we achieved a population greater than what our housing can support. Unless you’re ready to fork over 1200-2k a month for a 1 bedroom & 1 bathroom then I would advise against this.
ooo, ten years ago prices
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I don't understand this, why not call him the way he wants to be called ? He's despicable but his name isn't the problem, I don't see how calling him Bowman (or calling Donald "Drumpf") is making any progress.
And it kind of undermines the discourse that we should respect people's choice as to how they define themselves.
BTW, the Trump family changed their name before they even came to America, unfortunately - it was such a good story. I still like to call him that from time to time, but also Mango Mussolini, Orange Baby or just mad megalomaniac.
And without him and his ilk we wouldn't even have a "discourse that we should respect people’s choice as to how they define themselves" because that would just be the norm, no need to "discourse" about it.
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Add that's why certain employers already give a burner phone to their employees if they have to go to the USA.
But I heard they also demand access to ALL social media accounts, which aren't tied to a device.
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you do not have a legitimate reason to travel there now.
My parents live here
I live here
Damn. So sorry.
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Why isn't it that simple? People leave their countries for a better life everyday. If the situation is as bad as claimed I can see no reason why regardless of complexity it isn't the option chosen.
Lack of financials, knowledge, and support? "If the situation is as bad as claimed" is crazy tbh.
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But I heard they also demand access to ALL social media accounts, which aren't tied to a device.
They can demand it, but you can't prove a negative.
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"Quick! He might be hiding more memes in his ass!" Like what?
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They can demand it, but you can't prove a negative.
True. Yeah, I was wondering how that plays out if you simply reply "There are none."
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But I heard they also demand access to ALL social media accounts, which aren't tied to a device.
If you have 2 factor authentication, and the authentication device is on another continent, you don't have any means to access the accounts even if they demand it.
