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What is the end game?

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    The government is the only one stopping me from buying a small patch of woodland and building a cabin there to live in. Get rid of that and suddenly I no longer have a reason to work more than a handful of hours a month.

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    How is the government stopping you?

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    • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

      What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

      Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

      How do these despots think that food arrives?

      At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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      Paranoia can tell you anything you don't control is a threat - whether it's another country, a race, a personality type, lack of web privacy, whatever. The MAGA leaders are so drenched in that paranoia, there's really no limit to what they might do to squash anyone and anything they see as a possible threat to them.

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      • azzu@lemm.eeA [email protected]

        How is the government stopping you?

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        It is illegal to do so. You cannot live on your own land for more than 28 days of the year unless they give you permission to live on it. Which of course a house comes with that permission, a patch of woodland does not.

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          It is illegal to do so. You cannot live on your own land for more than 28 days of the year unless they give you permission to live on it. Which of course a house comes with that permission, a patch of woodland does not.

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          Can you live in a tent, yurt, van or other non-permanent structure?

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            I apologize because I did not mean to make any sort of personal attack. If it came across that way that is entirely my fault.

            If I can clarify in hopefully neutral terms, what I meant to say is that believing with certainty that 7 billion people are facing violent death within a generation or two cannot be good for anyone’s mental state and that sort of doom weighing on a mind will likely affect cause it many problems. It was not intended to be an attack on you, mainly an observation on the idea from my very limited point of view.

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            I wrote some long explanation but accidentally clicked on a link and lost it. Oh well. You are still doing the thing. It might be beneficial for you to learn about the range and types of functional thought that exist in various personalities.

            Someone that is very abstracted in functional thought can be one of the outliers that is difficult for some to understand. I'm driven by curiosity, but comfortable relying on intuition heavily. I think in something like a statistical space without absolutes of right and wrong, just probabilities and contexts. I'm motivated by curiosity and exploration in many contexts. My emotions are disconnected from this space of curious exploration.

            When I put the pieces together to state WW3 is very likely, I'm in a mindset like watching Magnus Carlson play a game of chess and making educated predictions about how he will play the next 3 moves. I am not playing the game and I have no emotional investment like the opposing player. You could ask me how I feel, but that is not part of my default thought process.

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              I doubt AI will ever have it's own will. First to get their hands on ASI, becomes God forever.

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              Why would it waste resources doing these unnecessary tasks?

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                I don’t see how you can possibly be certain about this. The push to fight abortion rights and the constant bitching about how people aren’t having enough babies to maintain the workforce undermines this theory.

                Unless you’re completely convinced that this is the future and the reason for it, I’d strongly suggest against stating it so certainly on the internet. Asking a question about it or stating it as a possibility given certain factors makes sense, but the way you said this can’t be good for your mental health, or the mental health of the people who read it.

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                "Abortion debate" and all other culture warfare is only to keep the masses busy fighting each other so they don't engage the rich in class warfare.

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                • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

                  What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

                  Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

                  How do these despots think that food arrives?

                  At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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                  President Muskrate is an accelerationist; who believes that societal collapse should come sooner rather than later. Some speculate that his plan is to capitalise on burgeoning AI along with the billionaire class to control people once the dust settles.

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                  • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

                    What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

                    Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

                    How do these despots think that food arrives?

                    At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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                    It's a coalition of crazy. It isn't entirely clear who is going to be in control of what or for how long. It could get very messy.

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                      "Abortion debate" and all other culture warfare is only to keep the masses busy fighting each other so they don't engage the rich in class warfare.

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                      So are you saying that having a large workforce isn’t key to keeping the rich rich? Because if you ask me losing 7 billion people would be a fairly large cutback in the workforce

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                        • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

                          What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

                          Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

                          How do these despots think that food arrives?

                          At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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                          Oligarchs replace most government functions with private entities that they have equity in and funnel tax dollars into their own companies. It looks like they're trying to cause a depression too, so they can buy everything up for cheap (farms, homes, etc). I think they're stupid, but not stupid enough to not realize an economic depression coupled with gutting social safety nets will lead to massive crime waves and riots; so I'm guessing they're planning on a police state and work camps for people they arrest (think that's what they're going to do with many of the immigrants too).

                          I've heard it postulated they are realigning with Russia and other dictators because we'd lose our normal allies if we became such a society. And they probably have very lucrative deals with Russia as well.

                          I sucks we don't have a good, inspiring opposition party or something to lead or rally around. Without that, anger will just manifest as unorganized, unproductive riots and violence. "Conservatives" are still pretty brainwashed too; believing whatever they're told by media. They will support the government gunning down and enslaving "criminals," at this point in time. I'd hope that changes when things get hard, but media will work hard to redirect the blame.

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                            Can you live in a tent, yurt, van or other non-permanent structure?

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                            Not for more than 28 days of the year. Non-consecutive isn't a way around that. People have tried and some do get away with it but others get caught and usually any structure has to be demolished and land seized.

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                            • ultragigagigantic@lemmy.mlU [email protected]

                              Why would it waste resources doing these unnecessary tasks?

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                              Maybe you won't, but make no mistake, that's the kind of people we are dealing with. They have everything they ever wanted, now the only way to feel even more superior is to take everything they can from us.

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                              • W [email protected]

                                No, just blowing up somewhere quiet that won't do too much damage, but I did think about it, and it's unrealistic. I just want a plan B for when things become intolerable. I won't be a slave.

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                                i know people are uncomfortable hearing this, but i am the same way. I'm already barely making it to work most days due to disability, i would probably literally get worked to death anyway. might as well spare them some satisfaction.

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                                • F [email protected]

                                  "Abortion debate" and all other culture warfare is only to keep the masses busy fighting each other so they don't engage the rich in class warfare.

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                                  i would believe this if they hadn't literally taken it away. it's about oppression, simple as.

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                                  • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

                                    What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

                                    Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

                                    How do these despots think that food arrives?

                                    At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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                                    The disappointing answer is that it's going to be very similar to how things are now, just with fewer rights and more repression around the edges. Almost all of Project 2025's policies are things that this nation has used in the past or is using today to a lesser degree - voter suppression, rollback of labor rights and civil liberties. The rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer, but that was happening long before Trump.

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                                    • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

                                      What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

                                      Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

                                      How do these despots think that food arrives?

                                      At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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                                      Total Control. That's really what it's all about. They want to control the narrative, they want to control the markets, they want to control every little bit that there is left that hasn't been touched. What they want is a dystopia and they're gearing moreso into realizing that dystopia than they ever been.

                                      Ever heard of Shadowrun? The TTRPG? That's what things are gearing towards, just take away the interesting and cool aspects from Shadowrun and you basically have reality right now as we know it.

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                                        Total Control. That's really what it's all about. They want to control the narrative, they want to control the markets, they want to control every little bit that there is left that hasn't been touched. What they want is a dystopia and they're gearing moreso into realizing that dystopia than they ever been.

                                        Ever heard of Shadowrun? The TTRPG? That's what things are gearing towards, just take away the interesting and cool aspects from Shadowrun and you basically have reality right now as we know it.

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                                        It would be a whole lot cooler if we had actual dragons hoarding all this, as opposed to metaphorical ones.

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                                          Oligarchs replace most government functions with private entities that they have equity in and funnel tax dollars into their own companies. It looks like they're trying to cause a depression too, so they can buy everything up for cheap (farms, homes, etc). I think they're stupid, but not stupid enough to not realize an economic depression coupled with gutting social safety nets will lead to massive crime waves and riots; so I'm guessing they're planning on a police state and work camps for people they arrest (think that's what they're going to do with many of the immigrants too).

                                          I've heard it postulated they are realigning with Russia and other dictators because we'd lose our normal allies if we became such a society. And they probably have very lucrative deals with Russia as well.

                                          I sucks we don't have a good, inspiring opposition party or something to lead or rally around. Without that, anger will just manifest as unorganized, unproductive riots and violence. "Conservatives" are still pretty brainwashed too; believing whatever they're told by media. They will support the government gunning down and enslaving "criminals," at this point in time. I'd hope that changes when things get hard, but media will work hard to redirect the blame.

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                                          Postulated? Russia openly announced this yesterday. Krasonov is in the house.

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