With the Legion Go S, we can now directly compare performance between official builds of SteamOS and Windows
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SteamOS is a full Linux build, it's just a different distro like Fedora, Ubuntu, mint, etc, etc
Like a distro with certain bloat disabled to optimize for gaming?
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Hopefully not a dumb question: If Vulkan runs on anything, assuming their game isn't a Windows (Xbox?) exclusive, why don't more people program their games to use Vulkan instead?
Because DirectX is more than a graphics API.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX
A fair amount of what used to make DirectX an everything API has been deprecated, but if you are already using Windows stuff for networking and audio, then you may as well use the graphics APIs too.
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Source is this video:
Windows Was The Problem All Along - Dave2D
We could obviously compare performance between windows and steamOS before on the steam deck, or between windows and Bazzite on other handhelds. But this is the first time we have had official windows and SteamOS builds for the same hardware.
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I disagree. Take Windows, remove the bloat, slap a game-focused GUI on it, call it XBOX and Bob's your uncle.
If Xbox Series S would have run all my Steam games, I'd have bought one in a heartbeat.
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Source is this video:
Windows Was The Problem All Along - Dave2D
We could obviously compare performance between windows and steamOS before on the steam deck, or between windows and Bazzite on other handhelds. But this is the first time we have had official windows and SteamOS builds for the same hardware.
That's interesting. But the second graph is designed to confuse.
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I’d love to know what windows figures would be like with a stripped down guts ripped out windows, such as revi.cc.
How does revi compare to AtlasOS?
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Proton is Wine plus DXVK and VKD3D, as well as a big pile of little tweaks and out of tree changes that Valve maintains to specifically maximize game compatibility and performance.
wrote last edited by [email protected]It sounds a lot like what the GPU driver providers used to do (and probably still do, despite all DX12 and Vulkan's promises of making that unnecessary) on top of making the drivers.
And that is basically "fixing badly written games so they perform well on the hardware".
As far as I can tell, Intel has been using
Proton's fixesDXVK to get their drivers working on older games on Windows -
How does revi compare to AtlasOS?
Very similar. I preferred Revi in my testing last year as there was less added stuff and wasn’t as “gamers fuck yeah”
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Very similar. I preferred Revi in my testing last year as there was less added stuff and wasn’t as “gamers fuck yeah”
wrote last edited by [email protected]I might check it out for my Windows VM then. Thanks.
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That's interesting. But the second graph is designed to confuse.
Why is it confusing? Maybe I’m confused, not sure.
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What do you mean? It's just steamos is arch linux with a fancy suit.
Arch can be configured many different ways.
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It sounds a lot like what the GPU driver providers used to do (and probably still do, despite all DX12 and Vulkan's promises of making that unnecessary) on top of making the drivers.
And that is basically "fixing badly written games so they perform well on the hardware".
As far as I can tell, Intel has been using
Proton's fixesDXVK to get their drivers working on older games on WindowsDXVK is not "Proton's fixes". It exists as a separate entity whose development Valve has helped fund and who Valve devs have directly contributed to.
Proton's fixes are out-of-tree tweaks to DXVK, Wine and VKD3D that, put together, make games work much more seamlessly and smoothly than they otherwise would.
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Why is it confusing? Maybe I’m confused, not sure.
wrote last edited by [email protected]why is fps labeled with hours and minutes? what is "dead cells" and why is it also labeled hours and minutes?
edit wow i was even more confused about it than i thought. what a terrible graph.
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Why is it confusing? Maybe I’m confused, not sure.
The Legion Go is on top and on the bottom, with the Deck in between. And the color scheme isn't helping.
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I am a little curious how something like Ubuntu would do on one of these gaming handhelds. Steam OS is a nicer user experience but I always wonder if it also adds any significant optimization.
iirc the original SteamOS for the SteamBox was Debian-based (like Ubuntu), i think they switched it to Arch since it moves a bit faster and offers a bit better compatibility.
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Holy shit triple the hours
Finally an extra 3 1/2 hours of... dead cells? 3 more hours of... FPS? the hell is this graph?
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why is fps labeled with hours and minutes? what is "dead cells" and why is it also labeled hours and minutes?
edit wow i was even more confused about it than i thought. what a terrible graph.
The title is battery life, that’s why it’s hours and minutes. Dead Cells is a video game.
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The title is battery life, that’s why it’s hours and minutes. Dead Cells is a video game.
wrote last edited by [email protected]yeah it took me a while, it's an awful graph and i haven't had coffee yet
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Cool, can you run video rendering software on it? How about some cli? Can you delete packages? Or even remove the french language?
yes, it's a desktop OS. it's literally arch linux. i have a friend who slaps the steamos recovery image on every pc now and just uses it as their go-to daily driver.
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Valve doubling down on Linux as the default OS on the Steam Deck was such a great decision. It obviously has given them a massive competitive edge. Windows has become so horribly bloated, and Microsoft has almost zero interest in making it run more efficiently.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Personally I feel what it gave them - primarily - was the ability to be independent of Microsoft, not beholden to them in any way whatsoever, and not having to pay them any license fees.
The fact that after putting so much work into making Proton and that whole toolchain amazing it actually turned out faster than Windows, well, that's juat the delicious icing on the cake, from a commercial perspective.
