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  • F [email protected]

    You could choose to be neither.

    Participating in culture wars manufactured to drive social-media-engagement isn't obligatory.

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    That's a shit argument that casts aside billions of human beings and their rights as such. And your follow-up is even more trolly? Fuck off.

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    • J [email protected]

      I guess the idea is that if you're spending all your energy being anti-MAGA then you aren't focussing on the real struggle (class warfare). But of course one can focus on class warfare while still being anti-MAGA.

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      "MAGAt" works, too, FWIW

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      • O [email protected]

        Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#20th_century

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        I'm fine with ignorants and some twats, but not both at once.

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        • F [email protected]

          You could choose to be neither.

          Participating in culture wars manufactured to drive social-media-engagement isn't obligatory.

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          "Choosing to be neither" is choosing to be an ignorant twat but too afraid to own up to it.

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          • C [email protected]

            Reminder that woke was originally used as a positive term.

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            What's amusing is that the Wikipedia article traces its origin back to the Republican Party.

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            • J [email protected]

              Also a reminder that woke is used negatively by the same people who cannot tell the difference between badly photoshopped letters and a gang tattoo.

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              That was depressing. I knew our president was dumb, but I still didn't think he could be that dumb.

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              • J [email protected]

                I guess the idea is that if you're spending all your energy being anti-MAGA then you aren't focussing on the real struggle (class warfare). But of course one can focus on class warfare while still being anti-MAGA.

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                #35

                I absolutely agree. And, the shit part of it all? It's been going on for pretty much all of recorded history (class warfare, that is).

                Edit: To clarify my position a little, I see choosing MAGA as willfully submitting to the parasitic "elites".

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                  Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#20th_century

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                  Saying a person is woke is like saying they are not a mindless sheep going through life asleep at the wheel.

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                  • O [email protected]

                    Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#20th_century

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                    So conservatives version of this is their deweaponization of the word nazi? Fuck this timeline.

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                    • W [email protected]

                      Saying a person is woke is like saying they are not a mindless sheep going through life asleep at the wheel.

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                      But they call people on the left sheep? How can this be true? /s

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                      • P [email protected]

                        "Choosing to be neither" is choosing to be an ignorant twat but too afraid to own up to it.

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                        πŸ‘†ThisπŸ‘† is how they view the entire non-hegemonic wprld. They admit it.

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                          Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#20th_century

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                          I agree that wokeness is more enlightened than ignorance, but I also wonder how woke it is to scorn the less enlightened so hard.

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                          • quill7513@slrpnk.netQ [email protected]

                            what are you saying? because it reads like you think nazis are anti-fascist which is WILDLY out of pocket so i'm sure you're trying to say something else, it's just not clear what

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                            Who has historically defeated fascists?

                            I don't think that's a hard question to understand.

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                            • J [email protected]

                              It's just how linguistics works I guess.

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                              La la la lava

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                              • L [email protected]

                                I agree that wokeness is more enlightened than ignorance, but I also wonder how woke it is to scorn the less enlightened so hard.

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                                I'm sure someone is somewhere grappling with that.

                                Since the politicians they support and voted in are actively dismantling the government, erecting a dictatorship, and enacting policies guaranteed to get people needlessly killed I don't find myself burdened by such concerns.

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                                • F [email protected]

                                  Who has historically defeated fascists?

                                  I don't think that's a hard question to understand.

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                                  woke folk. but you're out here saying being woke is neither good nor bad. so… what are you saying?

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                                  • quill7513@slrpnk.netQ [email protected]

                                    woke folk. but you're out here saying being woke is neither good nor bad. so… what are you saying?

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                                    when did woke folk bayt Nazis?

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                                    • F [email protected]

                                      when did woke folk bayt Nazis?

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                                      nazi germany doesn't get overthrown without resistance movements working tirelessly to fight for their rights back. french resistance, german resistance, italian anti-fascists, polish resistance, jewish resistance, and ukrainians who chose to liberate the concentration camps rather than make use of an opportunity to seek independence from moscow were all critical to allied victory in europe in 1945. and as is often the case in history, as soon as that was done, other oppressive forces such as stalin and the liberals of western europe sold out these freedom fighters installing a new world order of oppression. but we've continued working to get our liberation. you can discount our historical contributions all you want. it doesn't change the fact that the world only gets better when people who know the world is fucked work to get it unfucked.

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                                        Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#20th_century

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                                        The opposite of being woke is being asleep and oblivious to what's going on. It's crazy people say they aren't woke and think that's like a good thing lol.

                                        It's like saying "I'm a fucking idiot" and being smug about it

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                                        • quill7513@slrpnk.netQ [email protected]

                                          nazi germany doesn't get overthrown without resistance movements working tirelessly to fight for their rights back. french resistance, german resistance, italian anti-fascists, polish resistance, jewish resistance, and ukrainians who chose to liberate the concentration camps rather than make use of an opportunity to seek independence from moscow were all critical to allied victory in europe in 1945. and as is often the case in history, as soon as that was done, other oppressive forces such as stalin and the liberals of western europe sold out these freedom fighters installing a new world order of oppression. but we've continued working to get our liberation. you can discount our historical contributions all you want. it doesn't change the fact that the world only gets better when people who know the world is fucked work to get it unfucked.

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                                          french resistance, german resistance, italian anti-fascists, polish resistance, jewish resistance, and ukrainians who....

                                          Right. Groups totally unrelated to the 'woke' thingy people are talking about in this thread e.g. here and here

                                          It's not like we're going to learn anything useful about leftism from the USA. They've done nothing but ratchet their country rightward for decades.

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