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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.

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  • P [email protected]

    Steam should accept bitcoin or some other crypto as default for all titles and only use card for "safe" titles

    Steam users are mostly tech savvy enough to do it

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    #175

    Can I send them an unmarked envelope with enough money to buy the games I want, with only my username in the envelope?

    That would be cool.

    But agreed, I think steam should accept crypto.

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    • T [email protected]

      you must be into beastility, if your projecting this much about it, .

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      Thanks there Freud. You got me there. Can't wait to get home and unload my insecurities in the next animal i see. 🙃

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        Fuck off

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        Just because you get hard from stroking your pet, doesn't mean that it's healthy.

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        • F [email protected]

          It's been like this for a while in the porn industry. In an interview a while back, Bree Mills says she gets more limited by payment processors than the government (though that might be switching).

          Ever wonder why every faux-incest video goes out of the way to say everyone is a step family? Step father, step daughter, step mother, step brother, all somehow living in the same house, over 18, and no blood relation? The first amendment protects them from the US government, so that's not why. Credit card companies are why. The old Taboo series was distributed differently back in the day. Can't make that anymore.

          This also applies to some of the more extreme BDSM stuff, like blood play or scat. Won't find them on kink.com.

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          Yeah, processors and web hosts both play a huge role in policing content. The beasiality and lolicon websites haven't been disappearing for the last 15 years because moral awakening. It's been the web hosts shutting down websites because they violate some local law and it interfered with there profits.

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          • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

            why shouldn't people be allowed to make artistic choices when drawing pornography?

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            They can keep the beastialty shit to themselves.

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            • 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de2 [email protected]

              Well then stuff your puritanical BS. Stop making your discomfort towards something that causes no harm into someone else’s problem.

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              As long as the shit is on the internet where kids can find it, i'm gonna have problems with it.

              Do you think Lemmy checks for age?

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                Well after a bit of research it seems i was wrong with incest porn. Even the act is not punishable as long as it is not vaginal sex

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                I was surprised to see that you are correct. 173 StGB only mentions "Beischlaf" and that is indeed only vaginal intercourse. You learn something new every day.

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                  Source.

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                  There is a lot of talk dancing around the issue here. This isn't an American thing or a Puritan thing. This is purely a capitalism thing. They have been doing this for years. Do you think lolicon got forced off of every major platform for moral reasons? It breaks laws in various counties that the web hosts and payment processors operate in. Wincest porn, CNC porn, Zoo Porn, NSFL stuff. It's all illegal somewhere. These companies are chasing profits. Those niche topics mentioned above lock them out of expanding into some places. Like China. They don't give a fuck about the ethics of the content. They care that they're loosing money by not being able to conduct business in those markets. They care that hosting it makes them a target and possible have to deal with law enforment of some country, fines, or vigilante style attacks on their network. You'll loose your little family harem video game. They don't care. They're making billions processing the main narket. It's capitalism and the global economy that's making your platforms more conservative.

                  "It's just good business." It pisses me off.

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                  • D [email protected]

                    Well in germany doing porn that implies incest or csam even if the actors are not related or over 18 can still get you jail time

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                    When I am dictator, I will reverse this. All the porn that was banned will now be printed on government printing presses and mailed to everyone's mailbox by government decree. You will not be able to turn it off.

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                      Source.

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                      They might sort of have to do this or risk being cut off, given the loss of US Net Neutrality and the new pro-business-rights administration.

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                      • S [email protected]

                        There is a lot of talk dancing around the issue here. This isn't an American thing or a Puritan thing. This is purely a capitalism thing. They have been doing this for years. Do you think lolicon got forced off of every major platform for moral reasons? It breaks laws in various counties that the web hosts and payment processors operate in. Wincest porn, CNC porn, Zoo Porn, NSFL stuff. It's all illegal somewhere. These companies are chasing profits. Those niche topics mentioned above lock them out of expanding into some places. Like China. They don't give a fuck about the ethics of the content. They care that they're loosing money by not being able to conduct business in those markets. They care that hosting it makes them a target and possible have to deal with law enforment of some country, fines, or vigilante style attacks on their network. You'll loose your little family harem video game. They don't care. They're making billions processing the main narket. It's capitalism and the global economy that's making your platforms more conservative.

                        "It's just good business." It pisses me off.

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                        You're like the negative photo of a boomer. "Everything I don't like is capitalism!"

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                        • P [email protected]

                          Steam should accept bitcoin or some other crypto as default for all titles and only use card for "safe" titles

                          Steam users are mostly tech savvy enough to do it

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                          Steam used to accept Bitcoin, they stopped when the transaction fees made it unusable. Every time I remember that I get really pissed off, had the block size been increased back then Bitcoin would still be accepted in the many places it was (Steam wasn't the only one, lots of stores online used to accept it), but because they kept promising a magic solution that never manifested people lost hope and jumped ship (which did solved the problem as nowadays only investors use Bitcoin, so a lot less transactions, a lot more value in them, and higher fees matter less)

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                          • N [email protected]

                            Steam used to accept Bitcoin, they stopped when the transaction fees made it unusable. Every time I remember that I get really pissed off, had the block size been increased back then Bitcoin would still be accepted in the many places it was (Steam wasn't the only one, lots of stores online used to accept it), but because they kept promising a magic solution that never manifested people lost hope and jumped ship (which did solved the problem as nowadays only investors use Bitcoin, so a lot less transactions, a lot more value in them, and higher fees matter less)

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                            well now we have lightning maybe the time has come to try again.

                            Having already had an implementation working should hopefully help

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                            • S [email protected]

                              They had Bitcoin integration for quite a while. It was removed during a system change, probably because very few people used it

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                              i had no idea and i've held crypto in some form or another since 2014. Maybe it wasnt marketed well

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                                Source.

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                                If you can't buy these games on Steam anymore, where can you buy them?

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                                • D [email protected]

                                  Ability to pay for anything legal implies accountability. I doubt payment processors are creating these rules because they're afraid of Jesus.

                                  They just did the math and there's probably a ton of disputes/chargebacks on certain content.

                                  Should two consenting adults be able to pay each other for whatever the fuck - absolutely. But dumb pipe only sounds really good until you get scammed.

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                                  I doubt payment processors are creating these rules because they're afraid of Jesus

                                  For starters, the biggest owners of both Visa and Mastercard are Mormons, so...

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                                    We need to stop these Christians from oppressing us.

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                                    I'm already looking into organizing a secularist group, both lobbying in the style of SKG, both uncovering pseudo-secular organizations rebranding christian moralism as "common sense".

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                                      an unelected duopoly can basically dictate global laws.

                                      definitely dystopian

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                                      Dude SWIFT has more financial power and sway than visa and mastercard. They're the folks who manage the network that allows bank transfers to happen nigh instantaneously. So if they block you, you are fucked.

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        Nah they love violence. It keeps the gravy seals as hapless betas.

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                                        The violent video games though, those are the latest satanic panic I've been aware of thanks to that idiot Jack Thompson

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                                        • D [email protected]

                                          None of that is relevant to the other comment's point that these companies should not have that level of authority to dictate what we can or cannot purchase. If it is legal to purchase, then payment processors should not be allowed to deny the purchase. Period.

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                                          I'm not even sure those titles are legal everywhere.

                                          Allowing digital purchase of illegal products can very well be criminal for the payment processor in certain regions.

                                          I mean just look at those titles. "Incest daughter - BDSM".

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