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If nothing happens after we die, what's the point of it all?

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    and what is the point of our collective community/humanity?

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    Well the further you go on, the more likely it is that you find there is no point in anything, we are but a phenomenon in the universe

    But if you look closely you realise many have needs, many have desires, many want to enjoy company and experience many things, they feel a purpose in what they do

    There is a cute plot point in my fav anime, Hunter x Hunter. While the main protagonist Gon has a goal, to find his own father that left him as a baby, his best friend Killia is initially pretty nihilistic. He told his feelings about this to Gon, and he replied that, until he finds his purpose, Killua's goal will just be to be at his side. So, basically, the friendship itself will be his purpose.

    I think the general point is that our potential nihilism is part of our character. We were never supposed to live an individuals and be self-sufficient. Finding a purpose as individuals might not be a solvable problem! We might need another person to get that purpose.

    So while "scientifically" we don't have a purpose, as life itself is a phenomenon and our consciousness is a happy accident of that phenomenon, some people feel a purpose, they feel they want something, and others could simply tag along and find purpose in helping others with theirs.

    At least that's my answer so far 🀌

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    • M [email protected]

      Read myth of sisyphus BEFORE the stranger please. But yea camus is great

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      I did it the other way around. Still hit me like a truck. Damn you Camus.

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      • liberatedguy@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

        Yeah.
        That's why you are so afraid of the spread of Islaam.

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        Afraid? No, I'm male.

        Disgusted by so much backwards dullness? Totally.

        Baffled by the amount of people believing in imaginary sky-daddies because they're too weak to handle reality on their own? All the time.

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        • liberatedguy@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

          No; it's not all peace.
          It's about truth and justice.

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          It's about control of the peasants. Like every other cult. "Study" harder 😁

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            We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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            I like laughing and having sex (which I definitely have a lot of all the time I swear)

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              Well the further you go on, the more likely it is that you find there is no point in anything, we are but a phenomenon in the universe

              But if you look closely you realise many have needs, many have desires, many want to enjoy company and experience many things, they feel a purpose in what they do

              There is a cute plot point in my fav anime, Hunter x Hunter. While the main protagonist Gon has a goal, to find his own father that left him as a baby, his best friend Killia is initially pretty nihilistic. He told his feelings about this to Gon, and he replied that, until he finds his purpose, Killua's goal will just be to be at his side. So, basically, the friendship itself will be his purpose.

              I think the general point is that our potential nihilism is part of our character. We were never supposed to live an individuals and be self-sufficient. Finding a purpose as individuals might not be a solvable problem! We might need another person to get that purpose.

              So while "scientifically" we don't have a purpose, as life itself is a phenomenon and our consciousness is a happy accident of that phenomenon, some people feel a purpose, they feel they want something, and others could simply tag along and find purpose in helping others with theirs.

              At least that's my answer so far 🀌

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              I forgot how good HxH is. Need to rewatch it again sometime.

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                can you tell us about yours? what is the meaning of your life? I know we may not resonate with it and think it's worthless but to you it has a meaning

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                Curiosity.

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                • G [email protected]

                  We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                  The point is whatever we choose for ourselves. Just because we eventually die doesn't mean living isn't worth it. I don't care that one day I'll eventually die, I enjoy living now.

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                    Well the further you go on, the more likely it is that you find there is no point in anything, we are but a phenomenon in the universe

                    But if you look closely you realise many have needs, many have desires, many want to enjoy company and experience many things, they feel a purpose in what they do

                    There is a cute plot point in my fav anime, Hunter x Hunter. While the main protagonist Gon has a goal, to find his own father that left him as a baby, his best friend Killia is initially pretty nihilistic. He told his feelings about this to Gon, and he replied that, until he finds his purpose, Killua's goal will just be to be at his side. So, basically, the friendship itself will be his purpose.

                    I think the general point is that our potential nihilism is part of our character. We were never supposed to live an individuals and be self-sufficient. Finding a purpose as individuals might not be a solvable problem! We might need another person to get that purpose.

                    So while "scientifically" we don't have a purpose, as life itself is a phenomenon and our consciousness is a happy accident of that phenomenon, some people feel a purpose, they feel they want something, and others could simply tag along and find purpose in helping others with theirs.

                    At least that's my answer so far 🀌

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                    Good answer.

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                      We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                      Paraphrasing something I read somewhere "Do we open a book just to close it again?" That for me, it means that it is not merely for doing something that we exist, but to tell stories, to pass on knowledge, to keep rituals alive, to be a vessel for something beyond ourselves. The important part, same as books, is to tell stories. Everything sparks from there.

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                      • dyskolos@lemmy.zipD [email protected]

                        Afraid? No, I'm male.

                        Disgusted by so much backwards dullness? Totally.

                        Baffled by the amount of people believing in imaginary sky-daddies because they're too weak to handle reality on their own? All the time.

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                        Weak? Dull? Peasant?
                        Give me a break.
                        In your "reality", your life holds as much value as that of a lump of dog excrement.
                        And you have the nerve to call people "weak".
                        No wonder, atheists never created any civilisation. After all, what's the meaning of life, when it is all a giant accident?

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                          I like laughing and having sex (which I definitely have a lot of all the time I swear)

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                          Somehow I'm not able to believe it.

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                            Somehow I'm not able to believe it.

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                            I fuck trust me

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                            • S [email protected]

                              Your single existence might be ephemeral, but humanity isn't, your community isn't, and possibly your family either

                              Individualism breaks that sense of purpose, and it teaches us that happiness is made by personal enjoyment of often exclusive activities

                              If we lose trust in our community or in humanity in general, if we imagine the next person to only care about themselves, basivally if we expect individualism from others, we lose hope of feeling a more community-oriented form of happiness! And unfortunately in many places that situation is expected, because people are often indeed individualistic

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                              Your single existence might be ephemeral, but humanity isn’t, your community isn’t, and possibly your family either

                              It is though. Life has existed on this planet for just under 4 Billion years and in that time over 99% of all species to have ever come into existence have gone extinct.

                              Your community & family are no less ephemeral than the life you yourself live, but you won't get to see any of that.

                              If we lose trust in our community or in humanity in general

                              I never had a reason to trust them to begin with, tbh.

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                                We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                                Existential crisis moment:

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                                  We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                                  Something doesn't have to exist forever to have meaning, that seems like a holdover from utopic afterlife religious indoctrination.

                                  We can enjoy a movie or a lunch knowing it will end, I can pursue meaning and find multiple purposes throughout a lifetime.

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                                    We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                                    Why does there need to be a point?

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                                      We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                                      To enjoy the chemical pleasures that life has to offer, in its fullest.

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                                      • G [email protected]

                                        We spend our days bound by endless obligations. Yet, even with loneliness, failed relationships, and soul-draining work, people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

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                                        There is no point, you make it yourself. And plenty of people manage to catch a glimpse of happiness because there's plenty to be happy about.

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                                          Paraphrasing something I read somewhere "Do we open a book just to close it again?" That for me, it means that it is not merely for doing something that we exist, but to tell stories, to pass on knowledge, to keep rituals alive, to be a vessel for something beyond ourselves. The important part, same as books, is to tell stories. Everything sparks from there.

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                                          We're all just stories in the end.

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