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Signal's CEO: Then We're Leaving Sweden | Sweden Herald

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  • natecox@programming.devN [email protected]

    They will likely IP geofence Sweden to block connections to Signal’s servers being made there.

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    No. Thats not what the law does. Sweden doesn't do censorship.

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    • kbal@fedia.ioK [email protected]

      The "average person" you have in mind who obviously does not care about cryptographic security also does not use Signal.

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      There are a few people in my social bubble that are not technical at all, but heard a few bad things about WhatsApp and that's why they are using Signal. Nothing more, they do not know how it works, they do not know who provides it.

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      • avidamoeba@lemmy.caA [email protected]

        Signal will be delisted from Android/Apple store. That'll curb the majority of Signal use in Sweden. I suspect Sweden isn't going to after individuals. They could if they wanted to. ISP blocking, probably not, but yes ISPs can block Signal by blocking all known Signal servers. That's why Signal supports special proxies that allow individuals to run to allow people from blocked locations to access the Signal servers.

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        That’ll curb the majority of Signal use in Sweden.

        ...unless a bunch of users plan to actually do something illegal, in which case a delisting from the app store doesn't stop anything. Once again, it's just to enable data collection about as many ordinary citizens as possible.

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        • a_a@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

          i am searching their link to Sweden

          ::: spoiler no link found yet, i will search again
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          "Signal", Signal logos, and other trademarks are trademarks or registered trademarks of Signal Technology Foundation in the United States and other countries (more info here).
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          :::
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          "Leaving a country" for digital services usually means not providing services there anymore.

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            There are a few people in my social bubble that are not technical at all, but heard a few bad things about WhatsApp and that's why they are using Signal. Nothing more, they do not know how it works, they do not know who provides it.

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            thats not the target audience, thankfully.

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              thats not the target audience, thankfully.

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              The target audience is everybody with a Smartphone.

              The majority of people in my signal contacts are there because someone (sometimes me) pushed them to use it instead of WhatsApp.

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                "Leaving a country" for digital services usually means not providing services there anymore.

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                Thanks, this makes a lot more sense.
                ... i keep, time and again, searching for things, only to discover my "search goal" is not based in reality.

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                • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                  No. Thats not what the law does. Sweden doesn't do censorship.

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                  The question was what Signal would do though ...

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                  • M [email protected]

                    That is because they just decided to switch to use it for internal communications. This means that they would have to roll back that decision.

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                    It would have been good of the article to mention that important tidbit...

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                      The question was what Signal would do though ...

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                      Leave Sweden so they dont have to follow these regulations.

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                        There are a few people in my social bubble that are not technical at all, but heard a few bad things about WhatsApp and that's why they are using Signal. Nothing more, they do not know how it works, they do not know who provides it.

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                        And now they'll hear something bad about Signal and move on as they did with WhatsApp, as per your example.

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                        • cygnus@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                          It would have been good of the article to mention that important tidbit...

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                          It happened like 2 weeks ago so I will forgive them for missing it.

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                          • S [email protected]
                            • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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                            It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden

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                              • According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
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                              I don't get how its supposed to work...they want to require messengers to include backdoors in their software? So when a program is FOSS, then you can literally just use it knowing there is no backdoor..also, what blocks you from using a server in different country? Wtf that even means...

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                                It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden

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                                No wonder they pussied out and removed port forwarding

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                                • L [email protected]

                                  Proton is swiss

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                                  Uuh... Ok? How is that relevant?

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                                    Proton is swiss

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                                    And gobbles Trump's knob publicly.

                                    They won't need a law to force compliance.

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                                      It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden

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                                      Mullvad has proven time and time again that they don't log anything at all. Even if they give backdoor access, there's nothing to record.

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                                      • m137@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                        Uuh... Ok? How is that relevant?

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                                        Directly.

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                                          And gobbles Trump's knob publicly.

                                          They won't need a law to force compliance.

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                                          Sci-fi writing in here I see

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