Signal's CEO: Then We're Leaving Sweden | Sweden Herald
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It would have been good of the article to mention that important tidbit...
It happened like 2 weeks ago so I will forgive them for missing it.
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- According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden
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- According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
I don't get how its supposed to work...they want to require messengers to include backdoors in their software? So when a program is FOSS, then you can literally just use it knowing there is no backdoor..also, what blocks you from using a server in different country? Wtf that even means...
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It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden
No wonder they pussied out and removed port forwarding
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Proton is swiss
Uuh... Ok? How is that relevant?
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Proton is swiss
And gobbles Trump's knob publicly.
They won't need a law to force compliance.
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It’s worth noting that mullvad is based in Sweden
Mullvad has proven time and time again that they don't log anything at all. Even if they give backdoor access, there's nothing to record.
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Uuh... Ok? How is that relevant?
Directly.
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And gobbles Trump's knob publicly.
They won't need a law to force compliance.
Sci-fi writing in here I see
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- According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
There needs to be a messaging app which provides a backdoor for every government that requests it. Every time some dumbfuck legislator asks for a super-giga-secure-backdoor they promise not to misuse, they should be directed to that app.
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- According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
I'm not familiar with EU law, but wouldn't this set a precidence across the whole EU?
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Mullvad has proven time and time again that they don't log anything at all. Even if they give backdoor access, there's nothing to record.
Literally the first sentence of the article: "The government wants Signal and Whatsapp to be forced to store messages sent using the apps."
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I'm a bit surprised that the armed forces are openly opposing this, but good for them!
Don't know if it's a trustworthy source, but:
https://cornucopia.se/2025/02/forsvarsmakten-infor-krav-pa-signal-for-samtal-och-meddelanden/
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- According to Whittaker, the bill requires the encrypted messaging app Signal to install so-called backdoors in the software.
Meanwhile, the Swedish Armed Forces recently decided to use Signal for secure communication: https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/aktuellt/2025/02/forsvarsmakten-anvander-appen-signal-for-oppen-kommunikation-med-mobiltelefoner/
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Don't know if it's a trustworthy source, but:
https://cornucopia.se/2025/02/forsvarsmakten-infor-krav-pa-signal-for-samtal-och-meddelanden/
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That is because they just decided to switch to use it for internal communications. This means that they would have to roll back that decision.
Technically only for non-classified internal communication. Classified stuff is restricted to fee discussed only using military approved locked down hardware. But still, issuing a strong recommendation for Signal above all other options when communicating using regular devices is a good thing. Lots of "regular" conversations can still leak more than you expect through metadata, timing, etc, so they trust Signal to protect that
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I agree that it would destroy the reason many people use it, but they aren't outlawing Signal specifically. What they are doing is arguably worse, but this isn't an "anti-Signal" action.
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There needs to be a messaging app which provides a backdoor for every government that requests it. Every time some dumbfuck legislator asks for a super-giga-secure-backdoor they promise not to misuse, they should be directed to that app.
Imagine the complexity of the encryption algo with 100 different custom made backdoors!
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I don't get how its supposed to work...they want to require messengers to include backdoors in their software? So when a program is FOSS, then you can literally just use it knowing there is no backdoor..also, what blocks you from using a server in different country? Wtf that even means...
Then politicians would simply require for "any technical measures to ensure the backdoor to be available" or something like that, meaning it would be Signals' job to ensure the backdoor works. They don't give a shit how something is done (IT is just too complex for most of them), only that it gets done somehow. For that very reason federal digital services are such a shitshow so often, they just don't understand what they even ask for so professionals always have to work around politicians' demands constantly breaking even the most basic security principles.
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"Leaving a country" for digital services usually means not providing services there anymore.
Yeah, but why do they feel forced to? I understand the EU is imposing fines on Meta and Google because they have branches in member states. But Sweden can do to Signal as much as the US could do to The Pirate Bay.
